Saving Sessions / Demand reduction thread

I think we should have a new thread or use the powerup one though this is pretty off topic for this one

Edit, I have requested a rename of the powerups thread.
Hardly anyone seemed to use it but seems more sensible to combine into that one than this one.
 
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Bumping this.

Been looking around to catchup on seeing if any news on saving sessions and no. But its not sounding as good from the DFS point of view.
I knew they were proposing to make the demand flexibility a full year thing rather than winter, but it seems they think, or seem to think they need us less.

www.neso.energy

ESO sets out initial design for future of Demand Flexibility Service | National Energy System Operator

ESO sets out its intention to evolve DFS into a commercial service
www.neso.energy www.neso.energy

"Following confirmation in the ESO’s early view of winter that the de-rated margin – (the excess generation the ESO expects to be able to call on at peak demand in a cold spell) - is expected to be higher than last year (5.6 GW / 9.4% for winter 2024/25 compared to 4.4 GW / 7.4% last winter), the requirement for DFS to be used as a winter contingency service to support the electricity network at peak times has been reduced."

This is the latest

www.neso.energy

Demand Flexibility Service (DFS) | National Energy System Operator

The Demand Flexibility Service (DFS) was introduced in winter (22/23) to access additional flexibility typically over winter peak days when national demand is at its highest.
www.neso.energy www.neso.energy

"We submitted our final DFS proposals to Ofgem for approval on 24 September."

Says expecting ofgem review in Sept/Oct with Nov go live.

Cross you fingers fellas :)
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Bumping this.

Been looking around to catchup on seeing if any news on saving sessions and no. But its not sounding as good from the DFS point of view.
I knew they were proposing to make the demand flexibility a full year thing rather than winter, but it seems they think, or seem to think they need us less.

www.neso.energy

ESO sets out initial design for future of Demand Flexibility Service | National Energy System Operator

ESO sets out its intention to evolve DFS into a commercial service
www.neso.energy www.neso.energy

"Following confirmation in the ESO’s early view of winter that the de-rated margin – (the excess generation the ESO expects to be able to call on at peak demand in a cold spell) - is expected to be higher than last year (5.6 GW / 9.4% for winter 2024/25 compared to 4.4 GW / 7.4% last winter), the requirement for DFS to be used as a winter contingency service to support the electricity network at peak times has been reduced."

This is the latest

www.neso.energy

Demand Flexibility Service (DFS) | National Energy System Operator

The Demand Flexibility Service (DFS) was introduced in winter (22/23) to access additional flexibility typically over winter peak days when national demand is at its highest.
www.neso.energy www.neso.energy

"We submitted our final DFS proposals to Ofgem for approval on 24 September."

Says expecting ofgem review in Sept/Oct with Nov go live.

Cross you fingers fellas :)
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With the last coal fed power station having just closed, it's possible the savings sessions may pay better now.
 
Most of the sessions last time were tests, we need them to be doing lots of testing again. Although the auction process lowered the prices a lot.
 
Anybody else had a Save the Saving Session email from Octopus?

Looks like Ofgem wants to reduce payments to around 22p

At that price I won't bother.
 
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Ron-ski said:
Anybody else had a Save the Saving Session email from Octopus?

Looks like Ofgem wants to reduce payments to around 22p

At that price I won't bother.
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Yep, received earlier, meant to post. what a joke, like you say at that rate it's really not worth bothering whatsoever.
 
SoliD said:
Yep, received earlier, meant to post. what a joke, like you say at that rate it's really not worth bothering whatsoever.
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I received an email with the same just from Kieron, with links to tweet and email Ofgem. They will know full well that people won't participate if that's the level of reward, which I suspect is what they're after.

There is so much nonsense going on at the moment.
 
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