Another gimmick from Brown or the renewal of a British identity?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7287984.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7287984.stm
School Leavers to swear oath to Queen!
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Soldato
I'm glad I don't have to do it.
What would happen to those that don't do it?
Will they get beheaded by the Queen or even tossed into the North Sea?
What would happen to those that don't do it?
Will they get beheaded by the Queen or even tossed into the North Sea?
Soldato
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what a load of bullocks! **** the queen and **** brown
Soldato
I second the above as the new school leavers oath tbh.
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I am for this, loyalty to Britain should be something that are paid for by British tax's.
Man of Honour
I am also for this
Caporegime
"Could be asked..." Not "Will be asked..." The devil is in the details.
They're trying to copy the Yanks. Never a good idea.
If this is intended to help integrate certain ethnic minorities, they're going about it the wrong way. Oaths of allegiance are more likely to breed resentment than foster patriotism.
They're trying to copy the Yanks. Never a good idea.
If this is intended to help integrate certain ethnic minorities, they're going about it the wrong way. Oaths of allegiance are more likely to breed resentment than foster patriotism.
Caporegime
Doesn't the yanks do this, doesn't do them any harm.
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Lord Goldsmith was on Radio 4 this morning and nowhere does he recommend being loyal to the queen, it's just that he personally is in favour of it, even though it will cause quite a stir in Norther Ireland and Scotland as well as for us 2 million republicans.
The Americans swear allegiance to something as vague as ''The Flag''
The Americans swear allegiance to something as vague as ''The Flag''
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Country, yes, the Queen, no.
Why should anyone take an oath to the Quuen, an unelected member of the silver, gold, diamond, platiinum spoon brigade?
Why should anyone take an oath to the Quuen, an unelected member of the silver, gold, diamond, platiinum spoon brigade?
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"Will be asked" as in if the plans go ahead is what was meant.
Anyway how about swearing to hold up Truth, Democracy, Freedom and Moral values. Surly that makes far more sense?.....Of course the only problem is it would stop any school leavers then going on to become politicians.
Soldato
I'd like to see a more meaningful study as to why people feel a loss of our national identity and pride in our county to be honest, I think the idea of swearing an oath of allegance will be like singing hymns in school, the kids will go in, mouth the words without really paying any attention then leave and forget it.
I'd rather the oath be taken purely for the state, I'm not comfortable to swearing allegance to a single person as they are in no way better than me, to do so in my opinion would infer that they are more important than I am.
I'd rather the oath be taken purely for the state, I'm not comfortable to swearing allegance to a single person as they are in no way better than me, to do so in my opinion would infer that they are more important than I am.
I agree, however something that this country had in the past was a pecking order that was respected. People used to know their place and respect those in positions of power and saw them as being above themselves.
Unfortunately today we have lost trust and our change to a position of equality has not also bread social responsibility and respect.
Respect for your country, it's values, your community those around you and all importantly yourself! is what is needed. Rather than a woman 99.9% of the population will never meet.