Poll: Scottish Independence: For/Against?

[iBankAllDay]

Just outside Inverurie.

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Just outside my domain then; I've just started a job in Aberdeenshire you see.

I'm not sure what he would count as if he moved before the split. It wouldn't surprise me if some sort of "deal" was made that Scots living in England could continue to be British rather than Scottish though.

That wouldn't surprise me either.

I was extremely annoyed at the 'working deal' between the SNP and the Green Party, too. There are reserved matters that can not be fully addressed at the Scottish level, such as energy, but I would much prefer to see this dealt with holistically at the UK level.

 

[Jokester]

No poll?

Meh, polled added, but it won't be very representative.

Interesting article here about the economics of independence, basically saying that Scotland last year was a net giver to the UK coffers.

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[sarutobi]

Im Scottish and im against it.
I can see very little positives coming from it.
It would increase tension between Scotland and England.
I do not want to join the Euro.
The only difference between Scotland and England is a line on a map(and the rest of the UK for that matter, mostly ).
We have been working together prefectly well for a long long time.
Why go it solo if you can work as a team?
The only reason it would go through is because of all the neds voting for their scottish pride and bigotry.

 

[blairw]

Not something i want to see at all, but i feel that somehow it might happen, some people just see it as being proud of your country and such more than anything, and will vote for an independant Scotland..

 

[Raumarik]

I don't see what is wrong with the Scots. I don't treat them as foreign people, I treat them as the same as me, and that is British. We have achieved so much together, why break it up?

Scotland loses money and we lose a lot of soldiers. If it does happen then I think we should at least kick Gordon Brown and all other Scottish MPs out!

Trust me not everyone in Scotland is for Independence. I'm marrying an English woman in a couple of years and frankly if Scotland became independent we'd emigrate abroad, probably Canada.

It wouldn't really impact Scotland being independant, that's the problem there's very few advantages of it and quite a few things against it. We're part of a team with England and wales and I'd rather keep it like that - strength in numbers.

 

[Raumarik]

Im Scottish and im against it.
I can see very little positives coming from it.
It would increase tension between Scotland and England.
I do not want to join the Euro.
The only difference between Scotland and England is a line on a map.
We have been working together prefectly well for a long long time.
Why go it solo if you can work as a team?
The only reason it would go through is because of all the neds voting for their scottish pride and bigotry.

100% agree as do all my family!

 

[doopydug]

I'm Scottish and am against it also.

The UK needs to stick together, our economies of scale lose effect when that scale is smaller - it would make each of the UK nations even less powerful in a united europe - size matters!

Any domestic companies starting up or attempting to grow would benefit from a larger home grown market.

It is interesting to note that people think Scotland is a drain on the UK economy as most of those in the know think the opposite - there must be a reason why every other political party wants the union to stay together apart from the nutters at the SNP?
There is a Fife MP currently fighting to have papers released early under the 40 yr freedom of information act. A massive study was undertaken by Jim Callaghan in the early seventies I think it was which, for the first time, quantified the net worth of Scotland to the UK economy and the figures (taking into account North Sea Oil) appear to be startling.

I don't know that many Scots who see Independance as a good thing so the only reason, I assume, that the SNP have one so many seats is down to the current incompetence and spineless leadership from both labour and the tories.

 

[Jokester]

Jim Callaghan in the early seventies I think it was which, for the first time, quantified the net worth of Scotland to the UK economy and the figures (taking into account North Sea Oil) appear to be startling.

The government during the early 70s had a policy of spreading disinformation about the value of oil and gas in Scottish waters and spreading doom and gloom about the economics of an independent Scotland (how things have changed ) because of their fears of losing that income if Scotland gain independence. As it was they severely underestimated the actual value as they were using recovery figures based on 60s extraction technology.

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[4T5]

It's only right to discard them now we have raped them of anything useful. It's the colonial way.

 

[Jokester]

I don't know that many Scots who see Independance as a good thing so the only reason, I assume, that the SNP have one so many seats is down to the current incompetence and spineless leadership from both labour and the tories.

I'm for independence on the basis that even if we're governed by muppets as bad as those in London then things aren't likely to get worse (unless those with a socialist agenda get into power, then we're screwed). Having the economic freedoms to govern Scotland with Scotlands interests at heart rather than decisions being made on a UK basis can only be a good thing (much like the UKs refusal to join the Euro).

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[Jokester]

It's only right to discard them now we have raped them of anything useful. It's the colonial way.

Hey, you can still use us for cannon fodder .

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[Morba]

as we have a large scottish contingent here, would the options be better as:

english for
english against
scottish for
english against

maybe add in

other for
other against

?

 

[Digital Punk]

Even though I'm an Englishman I'm all for Scottish Independence.

I'd like to see an all English only Parliament and we get to look after our own affairs, and the Scots theirs.

 

[Digital Punk]

It's only right to discard them now we have raped them of anything useful. It's the colonial way.

Right. So it isn't the Scots who are wanting independence then.

 

[PJW]

If they want it let them have it and we can watch to see whether they sink or swim. And if they sink, at least they wont be able to blame the English.

 

[M0T]

The way I see it is the Scotland have more to lose from independance than the rest of the Union does from losing them.

On the international stage it is politically unimportant, ditto for economically, it has been a drain on the economy. Plus very few scots I have met like us, why not let them have their independence?

 

[4T5]

Right. So it isn't the Scots who are wanting independence then.

I was taking the ****, hence the rolleyes, if you look on the wall behind you there is a mark where it went over your head and splattered on the wall.

 

[doopydug]

I can't see myself as anything other than British. We are one and the same - fought in wars side by side for centuries.

The number of Scots who have moved south and the number of English who have moved north is phenomenal. We interact, we marry, we live as one and nothing should change that.

 

[XPE]

I can't see myself as anything other than British. We are one and the same - fought in wars side by side for centuries.

The number of Scots who have moved south and the number of English who have moved north is phenomenal. We interact, we marry, we live as one and nothing should change that.

bravo


Scottish and against.

 

[Biohazard]

I do put my hand up for independence as well.

I think we would do better on our terms, working alongside England on an equal basis if need be.