Poll: Scottish Independence: For/Against?

[Biohazard]

A newly formed indenpendent Scotland would offer unstability and uncertaintity over an English option for these companies.
As I've also mentioned independent Scotland would not have any control over its currency&interest rates.

Why is that? Would England not suffer from the departure? Or is it that the grass is relentlessly greener on the other side if your standing north of the line?

And? Many countries like the EU are tied into rates that are starting to seriously dent their growth and economy. There will be arguments for controls over more fiscal levers, reductions in business and corporation tax. It would not concern me staying with Sterling, we're all stuck into the same global economy however you look.

 

[cheets64]

RBS are crap I cant wait to change my bank account, being going wrong since i was 16 when they gave me a debit card and I went over drawn by a few £ and got stung with bank charges, they didnt have get it and they still are making mistakes, thinking of the Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation which was founded by a scot, now that is irony.

Let Scotland have independance, they cant ruin such a nice countryside.

 

[Biohazard]

Also, seven of the ten new EU Member States have a population similar to or smaller than Scotland’s. Just another example to set out that population size is not indicative of its ability to self rule.

 

[AJUK]

Given London's standing as a WORLD financial centre, any financial institution with a competent chief executive would relocate the entire organisation to London the second independence was declared. Whether it likes it or not, a post independent Scotland would have to relocate their headquarters to London just to survive.

 

[Biohazard]

Given London's standing as a WORLD financial centre, any financial institution with a competent chief executive would relocate the entire organisation to London the second independence was declared. Whether it likes it or not, a post independent Scotland would have to relocate their headquarters to London just to survive.

Why not do that now?

Why would you need to relocate to London? If you had vested interests, would an office not suffice?

This conjecture is nonesense without context.

 

[Alan!]

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[Biohazard]

Given London's standing as a WORLD financial centre, any financial institution with a competent chief executive would relocate the entire organisation to London the second independence was declared. Whether it likes it or not, a post independent Scotland would have to relocate their headquarters to London just to survive.

And ain't the LSE being bought by the yanks anyway?

So what then? It ain't even a 'British' thing after that..

 

[Morlan]

Well Scotland is a small country like Ireland, and Ireland is in the top 3 richest countries in the world (I think it's second in Europe). Why can't Scotland follow in Ireland's footsteps?

Nobody's really put forward a good argument other than:
a. the Euro
b. because we'd miss our English friends
c. because Brussels would take over.

I think Scotland could make it on its own.

 

[Biohazard]

If your happy staying with English[British] money, why not English[British] politics?

As I'm sure you are aware, living in Scotland, there were a large number of Scottish business people who put there name against indendependence.

Regardless of how you argue it the net effect on England would be marginal.

I'll go back to Scots pounds, I'm not fussed. Thats not the point being discussed.

So, Independence would be a dissaster for Scotland. A mere hic up for England. Rigggghhht.

 

[Alan!]

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[Biohazard]

Banks such as Bank of Scotland have their treasury operations based in London. So if independence was forced then more than likely the whole operation could be moved south of the border.

How do you mean?

Treasury operations?

Really? So if Indepedence came along, Scotland wouldn't have banks or any financial sectors?

Maybe just a piggie bank somewhere yeah?

 

[Dave77]

Apologies as I have not read the rest of the thread, but I am Scottish and I dont think Independance is a good thing. I am tired of people who vote for SNP purely because its 'Scottish' with no idea of what the party is about.

 

[mosfet]

I think Scotland could make it on its own.

I don't question this, but making it on its own and prospering are two quite different things.

I'm all for the union. In fact, I'm all for a united British Isles with Ireland, even though it'll never happen again. There's strength in unity when there's so much shared culture, history and language, and being in a British Union is far more beneficial than being in such an artificial union as Europe.

The UK is in a very strong position at the moment, with steady growth, low unemployment and a generally good economy with regards to the rest of Europe over the last 5 years. Why throw it all away for a load of nationalistic crap? Are the SNP trying to relive the days of William Wallace or do they want to live in a world-leading country?

 

[Alan!]

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[Morba]

Don't blame the Scots for that one, blame the system (or more directly Labour on this one). If Scotland were to be fully independent then Scottish MPs couldn't vote on English matters, as a matter of policy though if the issue doesn't affect Scotland it is only fair that Scottish MPs shouldn't vote on it.

The last thing i would do is blame the scots (as a nation), as always its the system that needs changing.

 

[Morba]

How about we take back pretty much the whole heirarchy of the current government then?

i would have no issues with that

 

[slambo69]

As a proud Englishman I long for the day when I am given the opportunity to vote SNP. Goodbye to bad rubbish, let us English no longer waste our hard earned money on northern peasants.Also, I would gladly pay twice the tax I do presently to fund the rebuilding of Hadrian's Wall, twice as high as the original design.

bad rubbish? Thats a very harsh thing to say, especially considering all of the things Scotland has contributed to Britain which has helped us through so many dark periods and helped us advance as a nation (Britain).

 

[Biohazard]

Well if your wanting a new Scottish pound there would have to be a new Scottish Bank to issue the currency. Of course this wont happen as the SNP have stated they would stick with the ENGLISH pound, HA HA. Yes, all UK banks have their treasury depts in London, as stated by others in other posts, London is the UK and European financial capital.

No there wouldn't. Why would you need new banks?

Oh large block capitals, I can really see staying up late for this argument was worth it.

I can't see the SNP stopping there tbh.

I'm sure there would be a keeper of treasury in Scotland again, with some office attached I would presume.

 

[mosfet]

bad rubbish? Thats a very harsh thing to say, especially considering all of the things Scotland has contributed to Britain which has helped us through so many dark periods and helped us advance as a nation.

*sigh* I thought Scots were supposed to have at least a shred of sense of humour.

 

[AJUK]

The thing is a lot of English are getting fed up of all this Scottish independence nonscence. You are struggling to get a mandate to do so, I seriously doubt that the Scots have the balls to go it alone. The English have, and there is a growing feeling south of the border that we can do without the hangers on. The time is approaching for the sweaties to put up or shut up.

The question is simple, remain a part of one of the most powerful countries on the planet or become nothing more than a Euro region without influence, power or recognition? The choice is yours.