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Did they take a blood test too?

I thought the breath test wasn't particularly accurate, hence the need for a blood test to obtain a conviction?

Also - do you not have a solicitor to explain what's going to happen? If not get one now.
 
Scary stuff , I'd be lost without my car (i'm not saying that to make you feel worse ). You were an idiot for driving and i'm sure you now realise that.

Best of luck with everything.
 
for some reason i was thinking it was 2 an hour. never mind :]
quite surprised he was so close to the limit then in that case

The limit is very roughly 4 units.

so 9 units 5 hours latter will very roughly be around the limit.
I can't remember but the calculation either adds 30mins or one hour for absorption. Sure some one will correct it.
 
Did they take a blood test too?

I thought the breath test wasn't particularly accurate, hence the need for a blood test to obtain a conviction?

Also - do you not have a solicitor to explain what's going to happen? If not get one now.

Thought that was for drug testing? I've always consider a postitive to a roadside drink test to be final if you're over, no if no buts.... you're out..!!
 
Didn't do blood or urine, no.

Just 2 tests on the breath machine and they take the lower one. Mine being 56 and 54.

I don't have a solicitor and i cant afford one either, as i'm on a debt management plan at the moment.

Andy
 
Didn't do blood or urine, no.

Just 2 tests on the breath machine and they take the lower one. Mine being 56 and 54.

I don't have a solicitor and i cant afford one either, as i'm on a debt management plan at the moment.

Andy

Legal Aid?
 
It's stories like this that support my decision to not drive if I've had anything to drink that day at all. Even if it's one at lunch I still won't drive in the evening because I just don't want to guess what state I'm in.

Same goes for the day after the night before. Just as well I don't drink that often.

Burnsy
 
Didn't do blood or urine, no.

Just 2 tests on the breath machine and they take the lower one. Mine being 56 and 54.

I don't have a solicitor and i cant afford one either, as i'm on a debt management plan at the moment.

Andy

ban and a fine... gonna struggle to pay the fine. I guess they could offer a few nights inside to compensate for not being able to pay?
 
Didn't do blood or urine, no.

Just 2 tests on the breath machine and they take the lower one. Mine being 56 and 54.

I don't have a solicitor and i cant afford one either, as i'm on a debt management plan at the moment.

Andy

You entitled to free legal advice, you'll need to look into this asap if it has not been offered already?
 
Did they take a blood test too?

I thought the breath test wasn't particularly accurate, hence the need for a blood test to obtain a conviction?

Also - do you not have a solicitor to explain what's going to happen? If not get one now.

You are usually taken back to the police station where a more accurate machine is kept which is allowed in court. They only do blood if you've had something that could affect the breath results like mouthwash.

Burnsy
 
I don't have a solicitor and i cant afford one either, as i'm on a debt management plan at the moment.

In the name of the Goddess I hope you haven't got a mortgage?

Just remember life can and will get better but for the love of the Goddess why didn't you think before acting?
 
It's stories like this that support my decision to not drive if I've had anything to drink that day at all. Even if it's one at lunch I still won't drive in the evening because I just don't want to guess what state I'm in.

Same goes for the day after the night before. Just as well I don't drink that often.

Burnsy

It's the mornings after that scare me. Generally I will not drive or if I have to I will go easy. But there's still no sure way of knowing.
If I'm going to the pub and driving I will stick to a 1/2 of low strength beer. Or if I know I'm going to be there all night 1 pint. As It shouldn't put you over the limit on it's own and after 4 or so hours it shouldn't be in your system at all.
 
Seems strange that they took you in in the first place to be honest. They'll usually do a roadside breath test which will come back as either a pass or fail. If you fail they'll arrest you and take you back to the station where they'll do breath test on the more accurate machine that'll test how many mg of alcohol are in your system. Just seems odd that they took you back right away, especially as they were looking for a different car. Maybe being overly polite and co-operative in this case was your downfall.

I do no condone drink driving how ever. I simply do not get on my bike once I've had a beer, the risks, especially to a motorcyclist, are just not worth it.
 
I was told the pass mark was upto 50g of alcohol per 100ml of breath.

It's 35mg per 100ml of breath

Problem is, my car is a company car as i work in the car trade and i have been told that the minimum is a 12 month ban?

This is my first time offence with the police to be honest, i use my car for work, i didn't cause any agro with the officers involved and would be willing to be sent on as many driver courses they want to send me on as long as i don't get a ban, because if im banned, i lose my job, so can anyone shed some light on what im likely to get?

Is it worth me looking for a new job now before the court case to line something up just in case?

Minimum 12 month ban for drink driving, absolutely no question of getting out of it.
 
It's the mornings after that scare me.

I totally agree. I once drove in the morning after a particularly heavy night. I didn't feel right and turned back. After doing the calculations I would have still been at least 4 times over the limit at 9.30 in the morning. That kinda shocked me into my current policy.

And as I don't tend of have 'light' nights anymore I'm absolutely paranoid about the whole thing now.

Burnsy
 
Ask at 5ive-O. It's run by a friendly bunch of traffic cops, beat cops and judges :) They're a decent little community and will tell you straight. The judges would be especially helpful in this case to give you an idea of what to expect etc. Ask about mitigation etc regarding your job. A ban isn't a 100% certainty afaik, but it's a high probability nonetheless. Good luck.
 
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i'm shocked that the bar staff suggested it would be ok, they really should act more responsably!

Anyhows drinking after 3 pints at any point during the day pretty dumb, even one pint strong larger can put you over the limit for an hour or two...
 
I'll break it down... easier ;)
Went to the pub at 2pm yesterday and had 3 pints between 2pm and 8pm.

I had a friend who was stranded 10 minutes away so i got into my car to go and collect him, i felt fine, and even asked the bar staff in the pub if they think i would be ok to drive, told them how much i had to drink and in a space of 5 hours and we all agreed i would be ok.

should in theory be ok.... but pints vary in strength etc,

Low and behold i picked up my friend and on the way back i was driving in my Black Ford Fusion as the cops were after a Black Ford Fiesta so decided to pull me and take me to the station to breath test me on the intoxicator machine.
Stopping you is perfectly legit, however the normal procedure is to do a screening breath test at the side of the road (or if there isn't a kit available in car) to have one dropped off by another patrol car), should you then fail there, you would be taken to the station for a full test, or should you refuse to give a roadside sample.

I was told the pass mark was upto 50g of alcohol per 100ml of breath.
it's 35microgrammes per 100ml in breath, and 80 milligrammes per 100ml in blood

2 blank tests were done, giving a reading of 35 and then my turn came which is when i recieved a 54, 3 hours later of me waiting in a cell feeling like a criminal i was charged with driving under the influence of too much alcohol in my system and now have a court date set for the 26th July at 9:30.

I was very courteus (spelling?) to all involved, the office doing the test wasn't sure how to use the machine which filled me with lots of hope :(

blank tests? the machine is self test/calibrated and should be operated by someone trained on the machine.... was it a blow test or blood sample? if it was a blow test i'm assuming they put a fresh mouthpiece on in your presence?

Problem is, my car is a company car as i work in the car trade and i have been told that the minimum is a 12 month ban?
This is my first time offence with the police to be honest, i use my car for work, i didn't cause any agro with the officers involved and would be willing to be sent on as many driver courses they want to send me on as long as i don't get a ban, because if im banned, i lose my job, so can anyone shed some light on what im likely to get?
Is it worth me looking for a new job now before the court case to line something up just in case?

There is a possibility... if you can't get it thrown out based on the readings and competence of the officer administering the tests, that good character references would help.... from employer listing what a sterling guy you are, how you make an honest mistake, (may also be worth getting cctv of the pub serving you three pints over the time period to highlight this... getting the exact times of service etc...). Speeding tends to be the course option

Before anyone kicks off, i know i was wrong, thats why im being sent to court, you dont need to point it out, i felt fine, i even double checked with the bar staff to see in their opinion if i was over the limit as they see this kind of thing every day im sure.

Good attitude mate, i do feel sorry for ya, as i hate this drink limit, personally believe in zero alcohol to drive, purely because different drinks at different times of day will affect people differently, there's no hard and fast rule, you could take an example of drinking the same time for 3 days with the same brands, and find due to different activities/tiredness etc, you'd be at different levels on each day....
It's also possible to be over the limit the morning after the night before :(
 
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