Second hand prices

Surveyor · 17 Oct 2022 at 01:02

pc-guy said:
4090 wont sell out...demand for that GPU wont be high...

Hmm...

B@Th*nG · 17 Oct 2022 at 07:58

Xelene said:
Been keeping an eye out on 3090 but they have to come a bit down in price as it's a bit of a lottery whether the VRAM was wrecked or not

Is that a thing? I'd not heard that. Is it a common issue?

Purgatory · 17 Oct 2022 at 08:25

B@Th*nG said:
Is that a thing? I'd not heard that. Is it a common issue?

Only if you buy from ex-miners that didn't care for their cards and let the vram go to silly temps. Normal card users no issues, so step with care if buying from a miner.

pc-guy · 17 Oct 2022 at 09:04

Surveyor said:
Hmm...

Day one release. Let’s see what it looks like 3-4months down the line. Limited stock etc

Surveyor · 17 Oct 2022 at 09:13

pc-guy said:
Day one release. Let’s see what it looks like 3-4months down the line. Limited stock etc

Let me know when you've finished moving those goalposts.

diamount · 17 Oct 2022 at 09:54

pc-guy said:
Day one release. Let’s see what it looks like 3-4months down the line. Limited stock etc

I don't think we will have to wait that long. 1 month should tell us where we are.

pc-guy · 17 Oct 2022 at 10:14

well, the next stock isnt due till AMD lauch time which end of Nov/Dec, i think after the next round of stock and if there are surplus then that is it.

nvidia again might decide to choke the supply to keep the price high. we know they said they are going to do as much as that

thebandit · 17 Oct 2022 at 10:17

They are actively doing that, they need to sell of those 3xxx series cards, hence holding back the 4080 16gb and canning the 4070 (4080 12gb)

ZeroG · 17 Oct 2022 at 11:31

So many people trying to get a 4xxx series card and here's me still trying to get a 3xxx series at a decent price.

LiE · 17 Oct 2022 at 11:40

ZeroG said:
So many people trying to get a 4xxx series card and here's me still trying to get a 3xxx series at a decent price.

Might be worth looking at members market, you can get a 3090 for around £700-750.

ZeroG · 17 Oct 2022 at 11:42

LiE said:
Might be worth looking at members market, you can get a 3090 for around £700-750.

I'm not looking to go that high really. I've been keeping my eyes out for 3080's as I'm coming from a 1080ti and want to keep the cost down if I can.

I don't have access to the members market. At the rate I post it'll be another year+ before I do, assuming it's still 1000 posts to get in.

LiE · 17 Oct 2022 at 11:43

ZeroG said:
I'm not looking to go that high really. I've been keeping my eyes out for 3080's as I'm coming from a 1080ti and want to keep the cost down if I can.

I don't have access to the members market. At the rate I post it'll be another year+ before I do, assuming it's still 1000 posts to get in.

Fair enough. 3080s are going for around £500 on MM FYI.

ICDP · 17 Oct 2022 at 12:03

Surveyor said:
Hmm...

Indeed but there was limited launch stock, I would say a few thousand in the UK and at those stock levels they were always going to sell out. Now don't get me wrong, PC-Guy was wrong and moving the goalposts wont change that.

There is a reason Nvidia trickle the release stock and only launch top end first. It is to get the mugs who have FOMO and are too impatient to wait until we see what the competition have to offer, or even for the 4080 to release. I have read of many people who bought a 4090 well into the PM on release day. I was even was able to source in stock 4090s at around 5pm when I checked for ***** and giggles. I also know a guy I work with who bought 3 over VPN while on holiday in Spain. He pancked and had to cancel two of them because he thought this would be 3080/6800 release all over again. The reality is that the vast majority of people who planned to insta buy on launch day got one. The ones who deliberated for an hour or so may have got lucky. If you decided to wait until that evening, well good luck but I would say you missed out.

Selling out a few thousand GPUs on launch day for all UK, then not having followup stock until end of Nov, should not be conflated with massive demand.

Jay85 · 17 Oct 2022 at 12:08

pc-guy said:
well, the next stock isnt due till AMD lauch time which end of Nov/Dec, i think after the next round of stock and if there are surplus then that is it.

nvidia again might decide to choke the supply to keep the price high. we know they said they are going to do as much as that

Stocks dropping daily, if you're signed up drop bots you would know. I get pinged a few times every hour, it's just the price is outrageous right now, 2.3-2.5k is the average im seeing right now.

HACO · 17 Oct 2022 at 12:11

ICDP said:
Indeed but there was limited launch stock, I would say a few thousand in the UK and at those stock levels they were always going to sell out. Now don't get me wrong, PC-Guy was wrong and moving the goalposts wont change that.

There is a reason Nvidia trickle the release stock and only launch top end first. It is to get the mugs who have FOMO and are too impatient to wait until we see what the competition have to offer, or even for the 4080 to release. I have read of many people who bought a 4090 well into the PM on release day. I was even was able to source in stock 4090s at around 5pm when I checked for ***** and giggles. I also know a guy I work with who bought 3 over VPN while on holiday in Spain. He pancked and had to cancel two of them because he thought this would be 3080/6800 release all over again. The reality is that the vast majority of people who planned to insta buy on launch day got one. The ones who deliberated for an hour or so may have got lucky. If you decided to wait until that evening, well good luck but I would say you missed out.

Selling out a few thousand GPUs on launch day for all UK, then not having followup stock until end of Nov, should not be conflated with massive demand.

Yeah. Anyone I knew who wanted one ended up getting one on launch day. I didn't want one and wasn't even trying too hard but managed to find them in stock and go all the way until clicking the purchase button easily on several SKUs, just to see how easy/difficult it is this time.

With 30 series we had >1000 pre-orders per AIB card per retailer within an hour. This time it was like 3000 purchases across the entire country for all cards combined.

ICDP · 17 Oct 2022 at 12:22

HACO said:
Yeah. Anyone I knew who wanted one ended up getting one on launch day. I didn't want one and wasn't even trying too hard but managed to find them in stock and go all the way until clicking the purchase button easily on several SKUs, just to see how easy/difficult it is this time.

With 30 series we had >1000 pre-orders per AIB card per retailer within an hour. This time it was like 3000 purchases across the entire country for all cards combined.

3080 and 6800XT on launch day a few minutes past 2pm the servers for all retailers had crashed and you were SOL. Both Nvidia and AMD had wafer shortage issues and could not make stock fast enough to meet demand. Anyone trying to state 4090 is anything other than a low number release are deluding themsevles. Nvidia are going to trickle that thing to keep prices high and drive demand.

The fact that retailers are bumping price well over MSRP is down to stock not meeting demand because that is how Nvidia are planning it.

Jay85 · 17 Oct 2022 at 12:56

ICDP said:
3080 and 6800XT on launch day a few minutes past 2pm the servers for all retailers had crashed and you were SOL. Both Nvidia and AMD had wafer shortage issues and could not make stock fast enough to meet demand. Anyone trying to state 4090 is anything other than a low number release are deluding themsevles. Nvidia are going to trickle that thing to keep prices high and drive demand.

The fact that retailers are bumping price well over MSRP is down to stock not meeting demand because that is how Nvidia are planning it.

I'm sure there's trade laws surrounding this, but the fines for this kind of behaviour is so small it's pocket change for nvidia.

LiE · 17 Oct 2022 at 12:59

Jay85 said:
I'm sure there's trade laws surrounding this, but the fines for this kind of behaviour is so small it's pocket change for nvidia.

Maybe for a commodity but doubtful for a luxury non-essential item.

ICDP · 17 Oct 2022 at 13:02

LiE said:
Maybe for a commodity but doubtful for a luxury non-essential item.

Yep, was going to post this.

Jay85 · 17 Oct 2022 at 13:03