Well that's the rule everyone is referring to when discussing front wing flex, including the teams.
http://jalopnik.com/#!5713489/the-amazing-illustrated-guide-to-f1s-new-technical-regulations
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Well that's the rule everyone is referring to when discussing front wing flex, including the teams.
http://jalopnik.com/#!5713489/the-amazing-illustrated-guide-to-f1s-new-technical-regulations
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This is so easy to resolve i.e put skid block wear test on the front wing of all the cars.
The blocks will be mounted on the end plates of the front wing. If the blocks wear out it's to low.
and when cars run over the kerbs,ban everyone
and when cars run over the kerbs,ban everyone
*cough* Schumacher, wooden plank... *cough*
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actually, a straight line test with skid blocks, would show if any wing is dropping more than it should...
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Come on nuTs just tell us the cars secret, no one here will tell the other teams and I'm sure RedBull trust us.
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and when cars run over the kerbs,ban everyone
The cars go over them now with out breaking the front wing..well that's unless it's a very high kerb.
You could also make the wing shorter so the tire hits the kerb first
Or just for you make it 5MM flex on and off the track..simples
and when cars run over the kerbs,ban everyone
No because the teams would have to run the wing higher to make sure they didn't get a ban. They wouldn't have to run it that much higher, just make sure it didn't flec to the point of almost touching the ground
I understand pushing the limits, but still no matter where and who I ask no-one can tell me why the michelins got banned and these wings haven't been.
The scenario is excatly the same, pass the static tests but clearly illegal when run under race conditions.
Then you have honda who got banned for having the ability to cheat but didn't actually get caught cheating.
It's not like it's hard these days to get accurate measurements from a photo, even if the car is running at racing speeds.
Why the hell ban rear wings for flexing backwards and not front wings?
The only way to stop it is to put wear markers in place. I hate the amount of money that gets spent on front wings in F1, I'd be happier if they saved the smaller teams millions by having a standard one built by the Fia and bolted on.
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Shades of Ferrari back in 06. Car was legal, passed all the FIA tests, but everyone threw their rattles out the pram and made them change their wings.
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Are you sure you mean '06 JUMPURS? Because I don't recall anyone jumping up to call the 248 F1 illegal.
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Gonna wind up just about everyone on here now, but sod it - I'm drunk enough to not give a damn
Can someone please explain to me why, if RBR have this wing that everyone says is illegal, have the Ferrari International Assistance brigade not banned it? After all, if the FIA are so rabidly pro-Ferrari as everyone on here claims they are then surely they could come up with a semi-plausible reason to make RBR go back to the drawing board....I mean, one would almost think that they aren't actually all that pro-Ferrari? Surely a pro-Ferrari FIA would do everything in their power to stop an upstart garagiste team like Red Bull from beating the might of the Scuderia....
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Malaysia 06, all teams apart from Red Bull, Toro Rosso (who ran Ferrari engines) and Ferrari (of course) wrote a letter to Charlie about Ferrari's wings which had to be changed for Melbourne iirc.
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I stand corrected, forgot about the nonsense over the wheel covers. Cheers gang
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Actually, I was talking about this.
http://www.vasanth.in/2006/03/23/wings-controversy/
http://www.vasanth.in/2006/03/23/wings-controversy/
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The secret is obvious.. Newey.
I'll grab his legs, someone get his arms and we'll throw him in the north Atlantic.
I'll grab his legs, someone get his arms and we'll throw him in the north Atlantic.
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Ah, okay.
So once again, the famously pro-Ferrari FIA instructs Ferrari to change their car. Ho hum.
From your second link:
Indeed. And nothing was 'found' on the Red Bull car. So how come Ferrari had to change their wings and Red Bull don't?
LOL Red Bull International Assistance LOL
For god sake!
A car is deemed legal if it passes scrutineering and all FIA tests. The Red Bull wing passes all tests, therefore is perfectly legal.
If the wing is still flexing then the issue is the FIA tests.
If the Red Bull was illegal then it would have either not raced or been disqualified (a la Sauber).
What we have, once again, is a case of very clever people producing some very clever engineering, but instead of praising their genius or trying to replicate the development ASAP, everyone is trying to get it banned (a la F Duct)
The FIA rules are broken, Red Bull have exploited this to their advantage. Well done Red Bull.
A car is deemed legal if it passes scrutineering and all FIA tests. The Red Bull wing passes all tests, therefore is perfectly legal.
If the wing is still flexing then the issue is the FIA tests.
If the Red Bull was illegal then it would have either not raced or been disqualified (a la Sauber).
What we have, once again, is a case of very clever people producing some very clever engineering, but instead of praising their genius or trying to replicate the development ASAP, everyone is trying to get it banned (a la F Duct)
The FIA rules are broken, Red Bull have exploited this to their advantage. Well done Red Bull.
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It is often the case, if something is too hard/expensive to copy, its best to try and have it banned. I do agree with the above though, they could even run it at that VW testing facility (the one james may maxed the veyrons at) a few times in both directions and check the wear.
On the one hand I do want to commend red bull for outfoxing the rest of the field, getting on for three years now (I do believe where it not for the double diffuser saga at the start of 2009 they may have managed WCC that year aswell). Still watching seb romp off into te heat haze aint exciting and I think the FIA will act if they start to see the viewing figures drop off like we saw during the MSC Ferrari days.