Sennheiser HD650 - The classic beauty in a grey dress Appreciation thread!

They have revised something (nobody really knows what) after November 2015. The new revision comes in a black box and has silver drivers. Ryan mentioned something about it being better.

Ahh ok, Well I shall let you on Thursday when they arrive :)

Would that actually impact performance much ?
 
They have revised something (nobody really knows what) after November 2015. The new revision comes in a black box and has silver drivers. Ryan mentioned something about it being better.

Are you sure? I thought Ryan was talking about Audeze when he said about November 2015
 
I know they changed drivers a while back (12~15 months) from silver to black drivers and the sound changed (unsurprisingly).
I think Ryan was looking for an older pair at one point because he preferred the signature but whether they have changed again and the newest version are better I have no idea.
 
It was the box that changed from silver to black. They havent done anything with the drivers for a long time. I know head-fi was all OMG the 650's have changed but at least one guy revisited his post after putting a good amount of use through them: http://www.head-fi.org/t/197776/sennheiser-hd650-impressions-thread/31440#post_12192490

I would like to add my two cents.

2009 HD650 vs 2015 HD650

The old 650's had their pads and headband replaced by genuine sennheiser parts 2 weeks back so both the 650's have similar use on their pads.
I still have both the 650's and the 598

I know for a fact that Senn has changed the tuning on the HD650 driver over the years even on the Silver driver versions.
I'm on my 2nd HD650, the 1st one was bought in 2009. It came in a silver case which came inside a silver corrugated paper box. The 2009 HD 650 is still going strong sonically, just beat up cosmetically. This 2009 HD650 had the silver drivers and paired with the HA 160D I didn't find the sound to be veiled or muddy. Burson's design brief for the HA160 was to drive the HD650 effortlessly since it was one of the most difficult to drive cans on the market so if the HA160 could drive the 650 effortlessly other cans available at the time would pose no problem.

This 2009 HD 650 out of the box had the vice like grip 650's are known to have and to loosen it I had to put in on a 10 inch wide bookshelf speaker(treating the speaker like a head) for weeks. This helped reduce the clamping force and the headphone became very comfortable.

Now this HD 650 had AWESOME bass weight and impact just like what Mike from headfonia says. The bass was weighty and detailed with very good extension. I also bought a HD598 in 2010 and compared to that the 2009 model HD650 was way ahead, more air, a presentation that was pulled further back, better timbre and the bass slam, weight and impact was waaay ahead of the 598.

Fast Forward to 2015

I really like the HD650 and since the old one was looking pretty beat up I decided to go for a new 650.

Going by my previous experience I was prepared to go through to vice like grip loosening phase but.....
The November 2015 manufactured HD650 had a very light clamping force out of the box which was at par with the 2009 HD650 after the bookshelf speaker loosening period.

2nd difference was the box was now black and the headphone case is dark grey.

BUT THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE B/W THE TWO WAS THE SOUND

The 2015 HD650 had no bass weight(even less than my 2010 HD 598) and had lost its laid back character, the sound has a forward presentation plus the treble is boosted and sounds like when 12kHz-16kHz region is given a+3.5dB boost. I still have the HA 160D and compared both the headphones on the same setup. Headphone was burned in for 200+hours.

The timbre, instrument separation, bass extension and detail retrieval is same but the tonality is different and the bass weight is absent. Gone is the warm laid back presentation. Sennheiser HD650 just pulled an Audeze.

2009 HD650 is a laid back warm sounding can with AWESOME bass weight and slam when needed but the 2015 HD650 is completely lacking in this department, its neutral sounding with boosted highs.

My old 650 has thousands of hours on it and the new one has less than 300 hours on it. I'll keep using the 2015 HD650 and report if the bass opens, if not Sennheiser has once again covertly changed the sound tuning of the HD650. These difference were also there when the cans were used with a Burson Conductor Virtuoso.

EDIT: 23/JAN/2016

The new 650 now has 1200+ hours of play time on it. One thing is for sure the HD650 takes ages to run in. If you don't have another HD650 for reference you will find that 350-400 hours of run in time is sufficient.

The 2015 HD650 started sounding like the 2009 HD650 around the 800-850 hour mark.

Changes to the sound

Out of the box the sound was lean,cool, bright and forward compared to my 2009 HD650. Post run in period, the 2015 HD650 has the same smooth, organic, slightly warm sound as the 2009 HD 650.

Out of the box the treble was hot and a too aggressive compared to my old 650 but that issue is no longer there.

Bass impact/punch/kick is greatly improved.

One thing that is still missing is the bass weight. It has improved but its still lacking a bit compared to the 2009 HD650.

So i dunno, not convinced.
 
Mine are the 2014 silver driver version that came in the silver corrugated box with the silver case, like the one above. Have to agree about the bass, plenty of it and they slam like a slammy thing.
I washed the pads on my DT990s yesterday and when I put them back on I gave them a run and though they are known as a bassy headphone they were no more bassy than my HD650s.
 
Well my 650 will be arriving today, I was thinking of getting the cable replaced with a braided version simply for aesthetics but would investing in a slightly better cable actually have any benefits or would it just be a placebo type thing ?
 
Placebo - there is nothing wrong with the Senn cable, it's thick, uses good materials and is electrically sound (hehe).
 
Different cables may have more robust connections and a different feel to the cable (and compared to ultra-cheapy cables will have better shielding), but the wire that carries the audio will do no better. Russ Andrews type nonsense, is nonsense.
 
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Well my 650 will be arriving today, I was thinking of getting the cable replaced with a braided version simply for aesthetics but would investing in a slightly better cable actually have any benefits or would it just be a placebo type thing ?

Do a single blinded test yourself and decide whether you hear a difference :)
 
Do a single blinded test yourself and decide whether you hear a difference :)

Good idea but I'd rather not gamble £100 for a cable :p

I'll be getting a braided 650 cable from customcans simply for the aesthetics.

On a separate note my 650's came in, They are the ones in the black box with the new drivers and odin be praised it's like the gods are singing into my ears :D
 
Good idea but I'd rather not gamble £100 for a cable :p

I'll be getting a braided 650 cable from customcans simply for the aesthetics.

On a separate note my 650's came in, They are the ones in the black box with the new drivers and odin be praised it's like the gods are singing into my ears :D

Buy from a company which honour DSR then there's no gamble :)

Honestly that is the best way to determine whether one thing is able to change your experience since this is so perceptive.

On a side note, if you only want the cable to look awesome you might want to shoot PexonPCs an email to see if they can make one for you.

They do braided cables for AKG K7XX, so I'm sure he can work something out for you.
 
Buy from a company which honour DSR then there's no gamble :)

Honestly that is the best way to determine whether one thing is able to change your experience since this is so perceptive.

On a side note, if you only want the cable to look awesome you might want to shoot PexonPCs an email to see if they can make one for you.

They do braided cables for AKG K7XX, so I'm sure he can work something out for you.

Good thinking thanks bud :)
 
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