Seriously ****** off - been threatened with the police by college.
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Shock, you've confused me now, so I'm leaving this thread 
OK you were drinking and driving, which i really do not agree with at all, but that point aside. What you do outside college and how you manage your time is none of her interest, i could understand her having a go at you for not doing work etc and advising you not to go out, but threatining you and ordering you about is something i would be very happy to talk to her supervisor about. If she is treating you like **** and threating you then the college should take it very seriously.
Just my 2p
Just my 2p
**whooa, reigns in the thread**
There are a lot of bad experiences out there of people who have lost loved ones to drink drivers. Same is also true of people who have lost loved ones to sober drivers.
Yes, I'm saying that life's not fair.
We should all be very careful about hijacking a thread to say something that is close to our hearts. I personally feel the OP has a genuine complaint against the lecturers. Do they have a right to accuse without knowing any of the facts? Smells like adult to "younger person" hypocrisy to me.
It is so easy to judge. Not so easy to post a balanced view.
There are a lot of bad experiences out there of people who have lost loved ones to drink drivers. Same is also true of people who have lost loved ones to sober drivers.
Yes, I'm saying that life's not fair.
We should all be very careful about hijacking a thread to say something that is close to our hearts. I personally feel the OP has a genuine complaint against the lecturers. Do they have a right to accuse without knowing any of the facts? Smells like adult to "younger person" hypocrisy to me.
It is so easy to judge. Not so easy to post a balanced view.
What the hell is going through your head lol? If I didn't care why would I bother trying to work out if I should have drove or not?PinkPig said:
That morning two weeks ago, I had to be up early and it didn't cross my mind. I could have been over, but it looks like I wasn't. This thread has also made me and a few others aware of just how long it takes alcohol to leave the system. I really can't see what you're problem is with me.
As for you saying "the reality that i've been drinking and driving". Do you know something I don't? Lets give it a rest. I'm not some child killer.
Shock said:
Sounds like she fancies you. to be honest you should get in there first and make a formal complaint about her saying that she tried it on.
...then when she says youre a bad student no one will believe her. result!
warning to kids: telling porkies is baaaad mmmkay!!
As you don't know for sure if you were over the limit or not, I certainly don't know. I'm not, and haven't, accused you of drinking and driving. Others in this thread, I can't speak for.Shock said:
But I'll tell you what my problem is. If you drink and then drive a car, it's your duty to know, or at least think about, whether you are over the limit or not. Your attitude throughout has been defensive, and along the lines of "I hadn't thought about it."
Why hadn't you?
Some people drink and drive deliberately, others through thoughtlessness or carelessness, but their victims are just as dead either way. If you're adult enough to have the responsibility of driving a car, you're adult enough to have to take responsibility for your actions, and it's not going to be much consolation if you'd had an accident and killed someone that you "hadn't thought about it".
Again, I stress, I don't know if you were over the limit or not on this particular occasion. That isn't my point. My point is that you didn't know, hadn't thought about it, and should have. But that doesn't make you the devil incarnate, and my comments aren't a frothing-at-the-mouth denunciation .... simply a statement that my opinion is that ANYONE getting behind the wheel of a car can't use ignorance of the effects of alcohol or lack of thought about it as an excuse for putting people's lives at risk.
This is why I pointed out that drink driving is an absolute offence. It matters not if you (the generic 'you', not you personally) knew you were over the limit, and you don't have to have done it deliberately. Drink driving is an offence, regardless of knowledge or intent, and it is a moral offence too. Drivers owe a duty to other people to know about this, and to act accordingly. That means, in my view, "if in doubt, don't."
If you aren't sure you're under the limit, don't drive. That's my view. And you clearly weren't sure you were under the limit, or there'd have been no need for this thread.
But what REALLY gives me the hump in this thread is those people implying or stating that people are vehement about drink driving because it's fashionable to do so, or they're the mindless victims of some government or media hype. People ignorant enough to accuse others of that want to try spending several months at the bedside of their child or, worse yet, burying a loved one because some ignorant twerp drinks and drives, THEN say they're just falling for government hype. That remark from Telescopi was incredibly offensive and I'm seriously disappointed that such drivel should come from a commissario on these forums.
Drink driving causes real misery, real tragedies that wreck lives and families, and shouldn't be trivialised by such assinine remarks.
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That is the problem and that is my point. Which I believe I made earlier in the thread, too, but it seems you summed it up yourself.Shock said:
My point earlier:
This thread really is pointless. If you knew you were under the limit you could've said to the teacher that "yeah, I had X units Y hours ago, so I've been sober for Z hours now. Sorry, I'm a lazy ass teenager, I won't do it again."
But no, you post a thread asking for people's opinions - and you're getting them - and then trying to defend something which may or may not have happened and trying to twist the fact that you don't know what happened into some form of defence, ie, "there's no concrete proof and I'm not really sure, and I disagree with the calculations in the thread...look, I'm not a child killer, I was probably borderline, just let me off alright."
Well it doesn't work like that! People die! Drink driving is black and white: alcohol is a drug and therefore alters your perceptions. Which means driving is very dangerous. Which is why the law exists. Which is why it's strict. Which is why it's absolutely stupid and indefensible to drink then drive within ~24 hours without calculating and adding a safety margin.
I have no idea how old you are but come on, you have to learn the basic rules or you will either end up in a minor accident, in court, or dead.
Aye I'm not disputing the fact more care is needed on my part. Hopefully I won't have to drive after a night out again, but if I do, I shall remember this thread.
Beansprout, don't think I have a problem with you, just wasn't happy with the know it all comment. Even though I do.
As to why I wasn't more careful in the first place - I genuinly thought I'd be fine after 9 hours after such few drinks, my mistake.
I still think the nosey cow should mind her own business, telling me when and when I can't go out. Pff.
Beansprout, don't think I have a problem with you, just wasn't happy with the know it all comment. Even though I do.
As to why I wasn't more careful in the first place - I genuinly thought I'd be fine after 9 hours after such few drinks, my mistake.
I still think the nosey cow should mind her own business, telling me when and when I can't go out. Pff.
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Excellent. Better to be safe than sorry (or dead)Shock said:
/is happy he doesnt drive 
to add more fuel to the topic...
i wana point out, who decides what the 'limit' is? Cos surely some people get more drunk then other people when they drink the same amount....just because you are over a 'limit' that has been set by the government (from research or whatever) doesnt necessarily(sp?) mean that they are in a more unstable mind then someone else who is just below the limit...
Also if you have 39mg or whatever the unit is, and someone else has 40, by that standard the one with 40 could get arrested etc....but i highly doubt the 1mg extra compared to the 39 would make him much more unstable driving etc....
to add more fuel to the topic...
i wana point out, who decides what the 'limit' is? Cos surely some people get more drunk then other people when they drink the same amount....just because you are over a 'limit' that has been set by the government (from research or whatever) doesnt necessarily(sp?) mean that they are in a more unstable mind then someone else who is just below the limit...Also if you have 39mg or whatever the unit is, and someone else has 40, by that standard the one with 40 could get arrested etc....but i highly doubt the 1mg extra compared to the 39 would make him much more unstable driving etc....
tell her to shut up and go **** herself and be done with the matter.
I bet she's done the same before, i certinally know the teachers at my college used too. Although your OP Title seems a bit off, if its just the tutor thats said she'll get the police involved not the board of governers.
I bet she's done the same before, i certinally know the teachers at my college used too. Although your OP Title seems a bit off, if its just the tutor thats said she'll get the police involved not the board of governers.
Shock said:Aye I'm not disputing the fact more care is needed on my part. Hopefully I won't have to drive after a night out again, but if I do, I shall remember this thread.
Beansprout, don't think I have a problem with you, just wasn't happy with the know it all comment. Even though I do.
As to why I wasn't more careful in the first place - I genuinly thought I'd be fine after 9 hours after such few drinks, my mistake.Very glad to hear it.
Shock said:I still think the nosey cow should mind her own business, telling me when and when I can't go out. Pff.
Yet if that "nosy cow" has prompted you to think more about when you're driving then she might have changed the future for the better. Good for her. People including teachers shouldn't be afraid to say what they think. I'm afraid I'm still siding with her!