Shamima Begum: Runaway IS bride to find out if she can return to UK

I'm not nationalist in the slightest.
Who said you were?
In fact, why even bring that up?
If you're going to deport on those grounds, then I'm fine with being deported,
Awesome, is there anyone from the home office that can facilitate FoxEye's wish?
Where would you like to go?
Thankfully that pretty extreme position is yours and probably not most people's.
I wouldn't bank on that if I were you
It's not even a human rights angle.
It so is.
 
Who said you were?
In fact, why even bring that up?

Awesome, is there anyone from the home office that can facilitate FoxEye's wish?
Where would you like to go?

I wouldn't bank on that if I were you

It so is.
Did you even bother to read the post I was replying to? It wasn't one of yours, btw.

You agree with @platinum87 that people who don't put the UK's interests above all else should be deported? Well, that makes you an extremist too. Good job.
 
I don't agree with that. I'm not nationalist in the slightest. Also, isolationism and/or exclusively looking for one's own self-interest cannot work in our global 21st century world. And isolationism/self-interest will make it harder to solve the really big problems of our time.

If you're going to deport on those grounds, then I'm fine with being deported, as in that case clearly the patients are running the asylum, and I'd be better off literally anywhere else.

Thankfully that pretty extreme position is yours and probably not most people's.

And nice to see you close with an endorsement for capital punishment. Not at all a stereotype, are you.

There is a difference between self interest and isolationism. Working and trading with other countries is in the self interest.
 
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Didn't she willingly go of her own choice to a group that was committed to killing anyone who doesn't agree with them? then there was a military defeat or something and she goes "it was just a prank bro jks"

Leave her to rot
 
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I think if we allowed people in the past like Lord Haw Haw to return to the UK then she should be allowed back.

Removing her citizenship seems abit tainted in subconscious racism. It goes beyond retaliation for joining a foreign force.

This is mostly academic because she is due to face justice in Syria, which could put her in jail for many years.

If after that sentence I'm sure she's broken some laws in this country that she could be charged with. Removing her citizenship seems like all hype and no substance.
 
Im not really arsed either way if she comes back tbh, if she did come back presumably she'd either get put in prison or be under intense surveillance 24/7 ?
why should the resources be wasted on her though? she turned her back on everything. was more than likely involved in some way of multiple murders also.
 
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Well, that makes you an extremist too. Good job.
Yay, I'm an extremist, whoop whoop
Dood, step away from the internet for a week or so, it's clearly not in your best interest to continue down this path.
Almost eveything you post is indecipherable drivel, so please stop and have a modicum of self awareness and just stop.
 
Would you feel the same if some Syrians came here and started knifing people? And Syria quickly decided they didn't want them back, so made them stateless.

Birthright citizenship gets silly when you have someone prepared to join ISIS. She's technically entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship and would perhaps fit in better there culturally.

I mean imagine being born in say Saudi or the UAE to British parents, you'd not get citizenship and if you went to say Iran or something to fight against their interests they'd probably not want you back either... they might well quite reasonably turn around and say this son of British expats doesn't belong here and should go and live in the UK.
 
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why should the resources be wasted on her though? she turned her back on everything. was more than likely involved in some way of multiple murders also.
Because she's British.

If she didn't have Bangladeshi parents we wouldn't be where we are.

The Home Secretary could only remove her British citizenship because her parents were Bangladeshi and she was under 21. He knew that she could never attain Bangladeshi citizenship but that does not matter, legally.

Legally, the only thing that mattered was that under-21s with Bangladeshi parents *may* be offered Bangladeshi citizenship, if they are able to enter the country and claim it, and if Bangladesh agrees to it. Given that neither were possible, should could never be said to be a Bangladeshi citizen at any time.

But legally that didn't matter.

It just shows that if your parents aren't both British, you don't have the same protections as if they were.
 
Birthright citizenship gets silly when you have someone prepared to join ISIS. She's technically entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship and would perhaps fit in better there culturally.

I mean imagine being born in say Saudi or the UAE to British parents, you'd not get citizenship and if you went to say Iran or something to fight against their interests they'd probably not want you back either... they might well quite reasonably turn around and say this son of British expats doesn't belong here and should go and live in the UK.
She isn't entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship. That expires at 21 and she's now 23.

They also have the ability to simply decline the request, and have always said that they would decline the request in her case. She never really had the opportunity of obtaining their citizenship.
 
Yay, I'm an extremist, whoop whoop
Dood, step away from the internet for a week or so, it's clearly not in your best interest to continue down this path.
Almost eveything you post is indecipherable drivel, so please stop and have a modicum of self awareness and just stop.
If my posts are indecipherable may I suggest you spend some time familiarising yourself with the English language? Nothing I've written has been indecipherable.
You simply disagree with it. That's not sufficient grounds to have some kind of soul-searching episode, I'm afraid.
 
She's a British citizen but of Bangladeshi ethnicity. It's like saying Rudyard Kipling is Indian.
So nobody born to foreign parents can be British? Does that apply if the parents are white Europeans, too?

If your parents are Polish but you were born, raised and live in Britain, you are Polish? Even if you speak not a word of Polish?

It's interesting to see where people's thinking is at.
 
my belief though is that the government must know more about her activities while she was in ISIS hence their refusal to allow her back - be that for national security or whatever reason can’t divulge that publicly.

Election year? :p
 
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