Shave my balls, bigot!

A sad state of affairs the world has come to when people like this are given more attention than they deserve. The only attention required is of the psychiatric kind to determine what's wrong in their mind. I also feel that a lot of this is all bandwagon jumping. People do crazy things to stand out and be part of something, a desperate cry for attention.

There are genuine medical cases of gender differentiation where a person was born with mixed chromosomes etc, but the ones you read about online so often are not the genuine articles.
 
dowie said:
Apparently evidence has been presented from someone who does treat (biological) males that they frequently get aroused during these procedures - so this rather strange individual wants to go into a woman's home, (some of the defendants have small children etc..) get them to touch her male genitals, possible get aroused... or else shut down their business for "discrimination".
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Are you suggesting that this woman is likely to sexually assault either the therapist or her children? I get that it might be embarrassing but if you're providing a professional service then surely you should be able to deal with that embarrassment. You should probably be keeping your kids away from your clients anyway. Having children hanging around while you're having a treatment done would not make for a relaxing or enjoyable experience in my book. This side of your arguement is ridiculous, stats show that trans woman are far more likely to betthe victim of violence rather than the perpetrator.

That said, if the procedure she requires necessitates specialist training the therapist she approached does not have then that specialist is well within their rights to refuse. Indeed to continue with a treatment they're unqualified to undertake could be dangerous and would almost certainly leave them open to charges of negligence if it went wrong, ending their career at best. If it were something like nail painting I'd support this woman if the therapist refused to treat her, but in this case, where the treatment is to a sensitive area and involves a treatment the therapist is not trained in then I have to say I agree that the therapist was probably right to refuse.
 
Completely ludicrous to have to do this, but would a way around it to be to change the name of the services you offer. Vagina waxing as opposed to a Bikini wax?

No loophole there surely?
 
phonemonkey said:
Are you suggesting that this woman is likely to sexually assault either the therapist or her children?
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Possibly, she does have an unhealthy interest in children she certainly does seem to indicate strong potential to be creepy around them... but beyond that we're talking about a procedure where the owner of the male genitals can frequently get aroused... granted they're not specifically giving them a hand job but having this pervert turn up at their home,.when they're alone with their kids and then get aroused etc.. is just weird and could easily be rather intimidating - I can't believe you're objecting to that objection tbh...


This side of your arguement is ridiculous, stats show that trans woman are far more likely to be the victim's of violence than the perpetrator, and nothing suggests this woman is any different in this regard.
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sorry but in the words of mags "just LOL"

There is plenty to suggest that, unless you're of the opinion that this person is representative of trans people in general, which actually would perhaps explain/partly justify the violence! (I'd not personally blame a parent if they did end up battering this individual if she did what she's implied she'd perhaps do in girls changing rooms). Of course most trans people aren't actually like this wierdo.

That said, if the procedure she requires necessitates specialist training the therapist she approached does not have then that specialist is well within their rights to refuse. Indeed to continue with a treatment they're unqualified to undertake could be dangerous and would almost certainly leave them open to charges of negligence if it went wrong, ending their career at best. If it were something like nail painting I'd support this woman if the therapist refused to treat her, but in this case, where the treatment is to a sensitive area and involves a treatment the therapist is not trained in then I have to say I agree that the therapist was probably right to refuse.
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I think they're right to refuse regardless, yes that is a valid objection but given the area do you not think that consent is important too?

Like suppose the beauty school they go to trains them in both, they're qualified in both - do you not agree that they can just state they're not comfortable providing this procedure to people who possess male genetalia? (I mean it is a different procedure even so essentially they'd just be saying they don't offer "brozillians" or whatever else they're called.)
 
Nitefly said:
I don’t think so. Bull**** activism is, but I think it’s harsh to say that all..... ‘lgbt activism’, is rubbish.
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I don't really see any trans activists that don't some have ridiculous extremist views. They are nearly always delusional and expect and believe things like teaching children that girls can have a penis too is acceptable.
 
XeNoN89 said:
I don't really see any trans activists that don't some have ridiculous extremist views. They are nearly always delusional and expect and believe things like teaching children that girls can have a penis too is acceptable.
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Well I can agree with perhaps wanting to have gender neutral bathrooms or wanting to raise awareness that there might be some people who identify as women and look rather manly etc.. and that this is generally OK/people tend to accept it etc.. then the likes of bar staff, bouncers, waiters etc... get used to the idea and it all becomes less awkward for everyone involved.

But yeah it can get pretty silly pretty quickly in particularly the absolutist mindset that "trans women are real women" etc.. generally doesn't allow for sensible exceptions as a result of biological differences such as participation in sport or not necessarily being able to make use of a women's refuge etc..

The absolutist position also provides for some amusing mental gymnastics:

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VincentHanna said:
Don't think anyone would describe this person as radical left after a bit of google-fu.
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Certainly not. But this person's gender view has and is protected by them. By their campaign to not just legitimise it but actually stymy any debate over the subject idiots like this can exist. They do nothing but negatively stereotype those with genuine issues.
 
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