Sherlock - Series 2 - BBC

I quite enjoyed that - moreso than the last episode, nice to make Sherlock more rounder if it means it gets used in future espisodes rather than discarded. Quite an obvious murderer as soon as you were soon him stalking the guard.

Still not sure making Sherlock more aware of his idiosyncrasies is the way to go, him being reminded of them seems to be the main reason why Watson is around...

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This episode was definately very different to the previous ones. Not necessarily in a bad way but the mysteries have felt a bit tacked on in this season. Ep 2 seemed to me more like something to appease the fans, everyone has loved Cumberbatch and Freeman's performances inbetween the mystery so much this was more of a tribute if the producers were in the office one night 'what do you reckon Holmes would be like drunk! hahaha' and then they decided to cram all those what if ideas into this one episode. I still enjoyed it, mainly as its so well acted and the banter is great and I like the actress playing the wife but it was more of a guilty pleasure episode and the least Sherlock one so far. It did also really grate with me this one time that they ended the episode on a downer for Sherlock, after all the build up with the bridesmaid even one dance would have sufficed or Mycroft turning up for the 'evening doo' catching him as he was leaving and them going back in would have been a nice way to end it. In any other show/episode it would be cheesy but after they indulged the cheese so much in this one to make it a dramatic downer at the end did rub me the wrong way.
 
Richeh said:
It did also really grate with me this one time that they ended the episode on a downer for Sherlock, after all the build up with the bridesmaid even one dance would have sufficed or Mycroft turning up for the 'evening doo' catching him as he was leaving and them going back in would have been a nice way to end it. In any other show/episode it would be cheesy but after they indulged the cheese so much in this one to make it a dramatic downer at the end did rub me the wrong way.
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I was relieved. Thought it was a fitting end, I can relate since I'm actually foreveralone.

Also, I like the fact that he described London as a great cesspit in the first episode this season, I'm probably not raising the bar high but this is one of my favourite literary quotes ever (from Conan Doyle):-

"I had neither kith nor kin in England, and was therefore as free as air—or as free as an income of eleven shillings and sixpence a day will permit a man to be. Under such circumstances I naturally gravitated to London, that great cesspool into which all the loungers and idlers of the Empire are irresistibly drained. There I stayed for some time at a private hotel in the Strand, leading a comfortless, meaningless existence, and spending such money as I had, considerably more freely than I ought."
 
I quite enjoyed the episode. Not the best, but nothing I thought was poor.

Someone asked earlier if John's wife would appear in a kind of villainous role at some point....I got a slight vibe too, but my answer would be definitely not, as personally I think she is just acting badly, or is poorly directed.

Richeh said:
It did also really grate with me this one time that they ended the episode on a downer for Sherlock, after all the build up with the bridesmaid even one dance would have sufficed or Mycroft turning up for the 'evening doo' catching him as he was leaving and them going back in would have been a nice way to end it.
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I agree. A bit of a downer to end on:(
 
A rather boring episode, took ages to build up to something interesting with too much jumping around. And what are the chances of the 2 cases they investigated being related to John's wedding? And they expect us to believe the soldier couldn't feel his innards being pierced by a skewer?
 
Wasn't a fan, again. Jumped around too much and didn't focus or spend enough time on any one case. Since the first two seasons it's completely lost it's appeal for me.
 
Pighardia said:
Or because the actors are very busy I think. Martin Freeman has been doing the Hobbit for a while now, and Cumberbatch is all over the place atm
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Season 1 had the same amount and length of episodes so that's a non-issue.

Luther got cancelled when Idris Elba made it in features so I doubt it'll carry on for a 4th season; they must have signed up for 3 seasons at the start because it can't be worth their while doing these at all now.
 
Episode was 'fine' but my God the director of this one needs a new job. I couldnt help but feel our A grade actors rescued what otherwise was would have been a sinking ship of 'has this guy even been to media college, let alone shot anything before'.
 
What was wrong with the direction?

I was only squirming at the wedding photographer using direct flash with no diffuser no less in broad daylight and getting unflattering shots :p
 
Well, apparently whoever it was doesn't know how to either do tabbed browsing or use, I don't know, multiple windows. opening what 8 laptops or something to talk to a few people, the whole info flashing across their faces, it was all rather embarrassing. Most of the flashing text stuff is just embarrassing, trying to seem hip but really seeming stupid.

The odd time a character reads a text, they show it to the viewer but other characters in the scene don't know is fine, most of the other stuff they do is garbage in that sense.

The case was too stupid, my first thought was he was stabbed earlier. Cases that only Sherlock can solve that end up so simple just feel wrong. It wasn't terrible, the recounting a story as a speech wasn't bad, but it was just too simple. It was also painfully obvious who was responsible, they did the whole stalker thing but never addressed that angle at all.

First series and, was it the first ep series 2, great, hasn't been anywhere near as good since.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Well, apparently whoever it was doesn't know how to either do tabbed browsing or use, I don't know, multiple windows. opening what 8 laptops or something to talk to a few people, the whole info flashing across their faces, it was all rather embarrassing. Most of the flashing text stuff is just embarrassing, trying to seem hip but really seeming stupid.

The odd time a character reads a text, they show it to the viewer but other characters in the scene don't know is fine, most of the other stuff they do is garbage in that sense.

The case was too stupid, my first thought was he was stabbed earlier. Cases that only Sherlock can solve that end up so simple just feel wrong. It wasn't terrible, the recounting a story as a speech wasn't bad, but it was just too simple. It was also painfully obvious who was responsible, they did the whole stalker thing but never addressed that angle at all.

First series and, was it the first ep series 2, great, hasn't been anywhere near as good since.
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True, it has felt a little lackluster, albeit still watchable. The 8 laptop thing was just absurd. Not sure if the flashing text thing is trying to be hip? The mysteries don't feel as tightly woven or important anymore. The episodes feel a bit loose too. I swear about 40 minutes passed in this latest one before anything actually happened, whereas in previous episodes it has felt like most minutes mattered and were integral to pushing the story forward.

Homeland seems to be another series whereby it started great, then went rapidly downhill after exhausting the original premise.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
Well, apparently whoever it was doesn't know how to either do tabbed browsing or use, I don't know, multiple windows. opening what 8 laptops or something to talk to a few people, the whole info flashing across their faces, it was all rather embarrassing. Most of the flashing text stuff is just embarrassing, trying to seem hip but really seeming stupid.
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...are you serious?
 
drunkenmaster said:
Well, apparently whoever it was doesn't know how to either do tabbed browsing or use, I don't know, multiple windows. opening what 8 laptops or something to talk to a few people, the whole info flashing across their faces, it was all rather embarrassing. Most of the flashing text stuff is just embarrassing, trying to seem hip but really seeming stupid.

The odd time a character reads a text, they show it to the viewer but other characters in the scene don't know is fine, most of the other stuff they do is garbage in that sense.

The case was too stupid, my first thought was he was stabbed earlier. Cases that only Sherlock can solve that end up so simple just feel wrong. It wasn't terrible, the recounting a story as a speech wasn't bad, but it was just too simple. It was also painfully obvious who was responsible, they did the whole stalker thing but never addressed that angle at all.

First series and, was it the first ep series 2, great, hasn't been anywhere near as good since.
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Yeah the "text overlay" thing has been far too overused. I was cringing in the previous episode when it showed Sherlock standing there for about a minute with tube maps flashing over his face. It went on for far too long. I just thought about Cumberpatch having to stand there for ages and the director telling him how great it was going to be. Seems really out of place with the standard of acting.
 
Agree with all the above. Real shame, because unlike most other premises (Homeland as mentioned) Sherlock need not fall at the "bugger, we've finished the original premise, what do we do now?" pit hole, because every episode can be its own standalone story (with character development)... hence why crime thrillers are some of the longest running TV shows.

However they seem to have skipped all that and gone down the excessive character development/comedy route at the expense of story.
 
I just worked it out. The episode was written by Steve Thompson, not by Gattis or Moffat.

All of his episodes are rated lower than when compared with the other episodes.
 
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I just worked it out. The episode was written by Steve Thompson, not by Gattis or Moffat.

All of his episodes are rated lower than when compared with the other episodes.
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I didn't want to say it because the blind banker and reichenbach fall weren't too bad, but yes. It looks like each season, moffat takes one, gattis one and this Thompson noname takes one.

He has two writing credits for two of the worst written Doctor who episodes,
- Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS (2013) ... (written by) - three token black actors deliver some of the worst eastenders acting I have ever seen
- The Curse of the Black Spot (2011) ... (written by) - 'Pirate ship' episode that is awkward, embarrassing and jarring.

Both episodes were total writing garbage.

I don't understand why a noname with notalet is involved in such a prestigious project.

mrk said:
What was wrong with the direction?

I was only squirming at the wedding photographer using direct flash with no diffuser no less in broad daylight and getting unflattering shots :p
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I can excuse minor technical mistakes like that. I mean more like, screen time is precious. After the credit roll, we are treated of 24 second of an awkward shot of mrs hudson walking up the stairs to some violin music. 24 seconds! The episode continued in much the same way. For example, the drunk section dragging on and on and on with not much dialogue being said, not much happening on screen, no use or understanding of shot types notably extreme close ups and cut ins.

In short, it reeked of bad writing and bad directing by nobodies.

However, the next one is shaping up to be a stonker. Moffat writing, and the director of Doctor Who episodes:
- The Day of the Doctor (2013)
- The Angels Take Manhattan (2012)
- Asylum of the Daleks (2012)
- The God Complex (2011)
- The Girl Who Waited (2011)

Which are all emotional powerhouses.
 
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So I missed a seemly important point about the Mayfly. What was that all about? Why did cameraLAD have to date all those women?
 
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