Poll: Should we close the 'Post your Picture Here' Threads?

Should we close the Post Your Picture Here (PYPH) Threads?

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Having creative references does make up the profile of a successful photographer, and awareness of what other people is vital as part of what you do in your work. You don't start tennis as good as Federer, you don't start art as Monet, you don't start school as Einstein. You have to start from the beginning, and learn your way up. While you might be able to hit a ball just about over the net, unless you're willing to learn from those around you and from those before you, you'll never get anywhere.
 
D.P. said:
I will look through my collection and find something I like. I freely admit that I am not a good photographer, I have NEVER ever made any claims that I was? Where do you get the idea that I think highly of my abilities - I certainly don't think much of my abilities so I don't know why I would state anything else. I am not a professional photographer, I take photos for fun, pure and simple fun.
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I don't want to get involved in this discussion but just for clarification, what I think Ksanti is referring to, is that you talk the talk about allot of technicalities and theory but are not walking the walk.

D.P. said:
Some people take their photography FAR to seriously it seems. Why do you have to see everything as some kind of competition. I take photos because it is fun, I don't give a damn about making money or what some internet peeps on their high horses say. I would hate for a hobby that enjoy some how turns into a competition between peers.
i feel sorry for you if you for some reason feel the need to constantly compare yourself to others! I merely strife to improve my ability over the course of me entire lifetime, I am not fussed if I don't. I know the value of the work to ME, and I know the value of work that I sell commercially .
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I think the issue is differing mindset's. Ksanti is likely competitive, you can tell by the way he argues. Similarly I am also competitive. For me competition itself is fun, so for me it's double fun. I don't care if I lose though, as being scared to lose can make you scared to try.
What I do is find a photographer that I like, then I set their standard or quality of photography as a benchmark to work towards.

I wasn't completely kidding when I made the below comment.
An Exception said:
I'm second shooting a wedding for the first time at the end of this month, so I guess I'll find out soon enough.

Raymond... I'm coming after YOU! :p :o
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Raymond Lin said:
lol, please do, competition is healthy :)
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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18324173

D.P. said:
Can you prove to me ONE SINGLE time when I have been wrong on the gear front in the 12 months?
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Well the rule of thumb discussion was a little shaky, but I should be able to find an example from 18months ago.
 
Ksanti said:
Having creative references does make up the profile of a successful photographer, and awareness of what other people is vital as part of what you do in your work. You don't start tennis as good as Federer, you don't start art as Monet, you don't start school as Einstein. You have to start from the beginning, and learn your way up. While you might be able to hit a ball just about over the net, unless you're willing to learn from those around you and from those before you, you'll never get anywhere.
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You learn techniques, creativity should come from within.
 
^^^ That thread reads like Jokester and gone through every photo I have posted with the watermark and deleted it.

I wonder if he has done the same with other people who also posted a watermark that is not their name.

Off the back of my mind, the 500px thread suggests not.
 
Yeah I'm very competitive, Rhys. I know where I am and I know where I want to go. When I make progress, I like sharing it. When I'm having trouble, I have no qualms asking for advice. There's always some way I can develop and discussing gear for 4 hours a day is not the way I'm going to do it - discussing shooting and actually shooting is what will do it. I take references from my artistic background and from my contemporary references.

There's a difference between competition and arrogance, the latter I'm starting to see come out in James.
 
Ksanti said:
Having creative references does make up the profile of a successful photographer, and awareness of what other people is vital as part of what you do in your work. You don't start tennis as good as Federer, you don't start art as Monet, you don't start school as Einstein. You have to start from the beginning, and learn your way up. While you might be able to hit a ball just about over the net, unless you're willing to learn from those around you and from those before you, you'll never get anywhere.
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Oh but I do learn from other photographers, I just don't care for peoples names when I see photos I like. I don't just look at 1 artist and try and learn from them, instead I concentrate on mastering light and everything then falls into place around it. I'm not there yet, but getting better all the time. My work isn't automatically crap because I don't follow "the big names" :P
 
Yeah I've been posting with the Mphoto watermark as it's the one I use for Fb and 500px, and I'm not going to export another copy of every single image just for this forum. I don't make any money off of the mphoto name (all my stock stuff is done under my actual name) and I don't make any money off of the web otherwise so I don't think that's an issue.
 
James J said:
Oh but I do learn from other photographers, I just don't care for peoples names when I see photos I like. I don't just look at 1 artist and try and learn from them, instead I concentrate on mastering light and everything then falls into place around it. I'm not there yet, but getting better all the time. My work isn't automatically crap because I don't follow "the big names" :P
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Oh no, of course not. But then ignoring them totally, in the way you seem to, seems incredibly arrogant. That's all I'm saying. Take a look around at what people have done, they might surprise you.
 
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Ksanti said:
Yeah I'm very competitive, Rhys. I know where I am and I know where I want to go. When I make progress, I like sharing it. When I'm having trouble, I have no qualms asking for advice. There's always some way I can develop and discussing gear for 4 hours a day is not the way I'm going to do it - discussing shooting and actually shooting is what will do it. I take references from my artistic background and from my contemporary references.

There's a difference between competition and arrogance, the latter I'm starting to see come out in James.
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Lol I'm not arrogant at all. I try and help more people out on this forum than most of the people in this thread combined. I'm also very active in giving and receiving critique on photos. Arrogance isn't defending ones opinion...
 
Ksanti said:
Oh no, of course not. But then ignoring them totally, in the way you seem to, seems incredibly arrogant. That's I'm saying. Take a look around at what people have done, they might surprise you.
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But there you go again, assuming that because I don't look at the work of ONE PHOTOGRAPHER, I don't look at the work of any photographer. I look at other photographers work all the time and I'm very active in lighting discussions on other forums specifically, learning and sharing techniques all the time. Because I don't try and emulate a guy with a donkey who loves landscape photos (which I barely take anyway!) doesn't make me arrogant. You are reading too much into things mate.
 
James J said:
Lol I'm not arrogant at all. I try and help more people out on this forum than most of the people in this thread combined. I'm also very active in giving and receiving critique on photos. Arrogance isn't defending ones opinion...
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Yet you say you don't care who Ansel Adams is, and can take a superb photo without any preparation or knowing about photographic history.

That's what I'm saying is arrogant.

EDIT: There's a difference between being aware of one of the biggest names in photographic history and emulating him. I'm saying a failure to do the former is where the arrogance comes from, in fact you actively try to not be aware of them by the sounds of things.
 
James J said:
Lol I'm not arrogant at all. I try and help more people out on this forum than most of the people in this thread combined. I'm also very active in giving and receiving critique on photos. Arrogance isn't defending ones opinion...
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Below sounds a little arrogant. Maybe it's correct and technically your just being confident who knows. Tbh, I think everyone with a bit of ego has some arrogance, but tbh.. I just think you were getting carried away.

James J said:
Sorry but I'm still laughing at the comment about "some people take their photography FAR too seriously" seen as you are the ONLY person on here who constantly bangs on about the science of photography, the neuropsychological effects of composition and calculating sun angles before you even get the camera out.

By the time you've finished doing all that garbage, I'd have already taken a superb photo using intuition, skill and artistic merit...
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Ksanti said:
There's a difference between being aware of one of the biggest names in photographic history and emulating him. I'm saying a failure to do the former is where the arrogance comes from, in fact you actively try to not be aware of them by the sounds of things.
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Tbh, not everyone studies photographic history. I can probably only name several togs, none are big names in photographic history.
 
Haha yes that escalated quickly...look photography is so subjective as long as you enjoy it whether its to make money or like the equipment side of it :)
 
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