Show Us Your Motors!

wedrum · 7 Jun 2017 at 19:09

[TW]Fox said:
The C4 is hardly a stunning looking car but it's very modern looking for a car as old as 13 years.

It's definitely one of the most non-banger looking cheap cars you can buy currently.

Hear hear

Frozennova · 7 Jun 2017 at 19:19

Dav4 said:
That's quite good actually from 900cc. I haven't heard of an engine under 1 litre since the Daewoo Matiz with its almighty 0.8cc engine that took about an hour to hit 60.

Its hardly ground breaking though. Suzuki were extracting comparable power from 660cc engines over twenty years ago (63bhp in a cappuccino/alto works)

Akagi · 7 Jun 2017 at 20:31

wedrum said:
Hear hear

Do you own one? Seems like a bizarre car to defend otherwise.

Lustral · 7 Jun 2017 at 20:33

grudas said:
I think anyone can get one going really if the usual organisers are busy

I vote Acme

Akagi · 7 Jun 2017 at 20:37

Lustral said:
I vote Acme

You may joke but I was actually toying with the idea a while ago. The main issue with me doing it is the fact that I don't know any exceptionally good roads around here, at least not ones which aren't connected by towns and dual carriageways.

Someone a little further up the country would probably do a better job. Surrey way, or the other way. One or t'other.

Lustral · 7 Jun 2017 at 21:20

Acme said:
You may joke but I was actually toying with the idea a while ago. The main issue with me doing it is the fact that I don't know any exceptionally good roads around here, at least not ones which aren't connected by towns and dual carriageways.

Someone a little further up the country would probably do a better job. Surrey way, or the other way. One or t'other.

I wasn't joking :rolleyes:

Any road is a good road unless it is riddled with potholes , plus a good pit stop for food would be awesome .

Akagi · 7 Jun 2017 at 21:29

'Ehhhhhhh... I'll go out and do some more scouting for roads this weekend.

Was it you who originally suggested it a while back? I can't remember who it was...

Jonnycoupe · 7 Jun 2017 at 22:31

Frozennova said:
Its hardly ground breaking though. Suzuki were extracting comparable power from 660cc engines over twenty years ago (63bhp in a cappuccino/alto works)

Turbo mate.

Don't compare a entry Clio to a Kei car either.

Clarkey · 7 Jun 2017 at 22:34

Jonnycoupe said:
Don't compare a entry Clio to a Kei car either.

Why not?

Jonnycoupe · 7 Jun 2017 at 22:54

Cc limit kinda dictate higher specific output...

Frozennova · 8 Jun 2017 at 06:40

Jonnycoupe said:
Turbo mate.

Don't compare a entry Clio to a Kei car either.

The 900cc Clio is a three cylinder turbo :confused:

They're both mass production, small capacity engines producing ~100bhp/litre why wouldn't you compare them

Akagi · 8 Jun 2017 at 06:46

Ford have a 1.0 turbo which produces 140HP and will do 170HP with a tune.

That makes the 0.9 turbo producing 90HP seem far less impressive. But then, I doubt it was figures they were going for. Just a good balanced car.

Jonnycoupe · 8 Jun 2017 at 06:56

The point was TURBO gives a range of power options. Clearly cc limited cars will produce more specific power when you pick the standout models and compare to entry spec cars. Ford after all also produce a 100bhp fiesta and 125 variant.

Akagi · 8 Jun 2017 at 06:59

I was more referring back to when someone said its good for 900CC. I guess I'm behind the curve of the conversation.

Glanza · 8 Jun 2017 at 08:26

Dav4 said:
That's quite good actually from 900cc. I haven't heard of an engine under 1 litre since the Daewoo Matiz with its almighty 0.8cc engine that took about an hour to hit 60.

My Dad has one and it's surprising how nippy it is off the mark.

Conscript · 8 Jun 2017 at 08:56

Acme said:
Do you own one? Seems like a bizarre car to defend otherwise.

I agree with the sentiment, actually. I think the French make some great looking cars, and have managed to come up with some designs which are quirky enough to make them stand out a little, whilst not dating them too much. Fox is right about the example Wedrum posted; it's not a stunner, but that design still looks fresh considering that particular car is 10 years old.

chrislusty · 8 Jun 2017 at 09:39

Acme said:
Ford have a 1.0 turbo which produces 140HP and will do 170HP with a tune.

That makes the 0.9 turbo producing 90HP seem far less impressive. But then, I doubt it was figures they were going for. Just a good balanced car.

Jonnycoupe said:
The point was TURBO gives a range of power options. Clearly cc limited cars will produce more specific power when you pick the standout models and compare to entry spec cars. Ford after all also produce a 100bhp fiesta and 125 variant.

Ford also have the 80BHP version of the engine too. Its only on the ST line the 1.0l get 140, above that they use a bigger engine.
The 900cc in the Clio is the same as whats in my Smart, its actually made by Nissan and is in the Micra now too, amoungst other models.

Jonnycoupe · 8 Jun 2017 at 10:19

As I understand the 80bhp is non turbo? hence I didn't reference it in fear of being called out on that fact

chrislusty · 8 Jun 2017 at 10:34

Jonnycoupe said:
As I understand the 80bhp is non turbo? hence I didn't reference it in fear of being called out on that fact

Seems you are correct on that! Although it is still a version of the same engine, just with a little bit missing

On the new Fiesta they have introduced a 1.1 litre TiVCT engine which is up to 80BHP too.

T0pPredator · 8 Jun 2017 at 22:35

Dang, missed the great E46 M3 colour debate!