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doran1801 said:
New addition. Halloween phase Amazon Tree Boa.
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Stunning :), is it male or female ? How much did you end up paying for one at Donny ? I was wanting to go but decided a bit of a daft thing to do before setting up a spare viv in case I end up with a new family member. When is the next one is it in November ?

Also how have you set it up, what heating method are you using and stat ? It looks like a Habistat pulse/dimming stat probe in the picture.


Trying to figure out how to arrange the living room for a new snake ATB or a carpet python or a ETB, well all 3 are on the list of wants but ETB, ATB then a Diamond or Jungle or Jungle Jag mix. Still deciding how to do it and if it may be smart to get a specially made viv for the GTP and then half one side of it for a ETB so looks like one viv but in reality they are separated down the middle with a sheet of glass to keep them apart but would look like one outdoor scene with two tree snakes. Or even a 3 vivs in one type thing and stick a ATB in the mix. Just need to think it threw more as the heating of each separate viv maybe an issue to keep cold sides and warm sides right but want to make it look like one scene really that you can't really tell are separate vivs.

If I go 3 tree viv route then will have the current GTP viv for a Carpet but I'm not 100% sure I really want a Carpet yet as they can get pretty large, so maybe easier to make the 2 viv idea for the GTP and ETB and then use the current GTP viv for a ATB which really is the smart thing to do as it makes the viv setups easier to manage which is very important as you know for easy maintenance and access to the animals when feeding or having to handle them. (I'm trying to talk myself out of a carpet as you may notice :o, but if a stunning Diamond comes up it may have to get snapped up as they are pretty hard to find nice ones).


Get some more pics up of the ATB would love to see more of it and the viv you have setup for it.

At Donny did you see any ETB's there by any chance ?
 
ValiantUK91 said:
The Boa with the IR was treated before i moved him on, a friend of mine had him off me after the IR was cured.

It wasn't the fear of getting biten it was more of what does it feel like. In the end it tagged me a few times and it was no biggie. He calmed right down and didnt mind been handled, again another friend had him off me and he handles him all the time. The owner i had him off used to pin him down with a plastic tub lid no wonder he was always aggresive.

Gopher has gone back to been his usual self, not quite why he went like he did, he is eating shedding etc fine. Hes not struck since had him out last night actually.

BRB is a joy to handle i was expecting to get biten after reading comments on them but shes not ahown any aggression as of yet.
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Good stuff with the BC, happy to hear it is well :), the Gopher if he is getting to about a year or a little more can do that behaviour for a while and will calm down again so don't worry too much about that. The BRB will only get calmer and calmer with age so sounds like you have a buddy for life there, but don't be surprised if you get bitten by her from time to time it happens but not a regular thing with them when they get over the 2-3 year mark, they make great handling snakes after you get over the hurdles of them not wanting to be handled and bitey when young, it's one of them snakes to keep handling till they calm down and get use to you and not give up, but most new people to snakes don't realise that and then also have problems keeping them alive and setting up their environment right. Sounds like you are doing well with her, the Gopher will also grow out of that strange behaviour they do about a year old.

Any luck on the ATB ?
 
Purgatory said:
Stunning :), is it male or female ? How much did you end up paying for one at Donny ? I was wanting to go but decided a bit of a daft thing to do before setting up a spare viv in case I end up with a new family member. When is the next one is it in November ?

Also how have you set it up, what heating method are you using and stat ? It looks like a Habistat pulse/dimming stat probe in the picture.


Trying to figure out how to arrange the living room for a new snake ATB or a carpet python or a ETB, well all 3 are on the list of wants but ETB, ATB then a Diamond or Jungle or Jungle Jag mix. Still deciding how to do it and if it may be smart to get a specially made viv for the GTP and then half one side of it for a ETB so looks like one viv but in reality they are separated down the middle with a sheet of glass to keep them apart but would look like one outdoor scene with two tree snakes. Or even a 3 vivs in one type thing and stick a ATB in the mix. Just need to think it threw more as the heating of each separate viv maybe an issue to keep cold sides and warm sides right but want to make it look like one scene really that you can't really tell are separate vivs.

If I go 3 tree viv route then will have the current GTP viv for a Carpet but I'm not 100% sure I really want a Carpet yet as they can get pretty large, so maybe easier to make the 2 viv idea for the GTP and ETB and then use the current GTP viv for a ATB which really is the smart thing to do as it makes the viv setups easier to manage which is very important as you know for easy maintenance and access to the animals when feeding or having to handle them. (I'm trying to talk myself out of a carpet as you may notice :o, but if a stunning Diamond comes up it may have to get snapped up as they are pretty hard to find nice ones).


Get some more pics up of the ATB would love to see more of it and the viv you have setup for it.

At Donny did you see any ETB's there by any chance ?
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next donny show 5th nov
1 ETB. went for almost £800 i think
my ATB is unsexed yet. paid 120

at the min hes in a XS tall EXO terra. ill move him in about 6 months to a bio viv. im just building it up now. gonna be 4x2.5x2 so quite a size. i like the idea of having 2 vivs joined up. but yes., you would need to treat them as 100% separate habitats. so maybe heat in the right\left middle? i might look at this idea some more for future.


so far ive got GTP\ATB Panther Cham and a rescued Yemen. all except ATB on fully bioactive. trying to keep it at a self imposed limit!
 
doran1801 said:
next donny show 5th nov
1 ETB. went for almost £800 i think
my ATB is unsexed yet. paid 120

at the min hes in a XS tall EXO terra. ill move him in about 6 months to a bio viv. im just building it up now. gonna be 4x2.5x2 so quite a size. i like the idea of having 2 vivs joined up. but yes., you would need to treat them as 100% separate habitats. so maybe heat in the right\left middle? i might look at this idea some more for future.


so far ive got GTP\ATB Panther Cham and a rescued Yemen. all except ATB on fully bioactive. trying to keep it at a self imposed limit!
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Sounds good with the ATB setup for its age and i'm sure you going to have a stunning bioactive setup again for it. Yes £120 is a fair price for it, happy to see they are not taking advantage of customers there, I have been to a few of the reptile shows and they in most cases try to take advantage of the newbies to the hobby and price things in a silly manner or worse have very poor quality animals for silly prices.

The ETB for £800 I hope it was a Basin(Corallus batesii) type that went for that as Northerns/Surinam (Corallus caninus) are a fair bit cheaper. The more I look into ETB's in the UK market the more I notice some strange monopoly going on with these animals, it's like they fix the prices between breeders I even saw a pair of breeding Basins for £10,000 but they were advertised in such a strange way and not once did they show proof of babies from the pair or even state their age or if they were captive bread pair or farmed or wild caught. The whole advert for them rang a lot of warning bells to me. Then there was adverts for some for £250 and again bells rang because that's a clear sign there is something wrong with these, a lot of people that don't know about snakes especially the GTP and ETB is when they are selling young-lings cheap is because they know they die in a very short period of time or part of the batch that were born are dying off slowly as they are trying to sell them and know they will not survive with the new owners and if you read the small print on the sale they will say you get a week to 2 weeks guarantee on them and anything after that is basically your fault if they die, I have even seen some adds state 3 days only.


I never rush in buying any animal and have waited years to get the right one, the GTP I have now is a great example of it as I use to have a pair of Biaks many years ago and one was red and one was yellow as a baby but as they matured they didn't look like how I thought they would and didn't like their look so sold them on to someone who appreciated that look of a GTP, one turned into a "mite phase" it was covered in black spots and almost looked more black than green and yellow. It looked like almost these designer GTPS they sell now, this was years ago before all this designer rubbish, I like my animals to look like the wild versions and maybe a slight bit brighter so they don't brown out with age for example or more intense wild colour, but in the wild "morph". It's funny to think I got rid of them Biaks because now they are worth a fortune that type of looking type but to me an animal I keep must be one I fall for and want to keep for life of the animal and sadly they were not that and wanted to give someone a chance that wanted that type and would keep them to their full lives.


The next bunch I am after the ETB,ATB and maybe a Carpet python all again have to be females (I only want female snakes as my personal pets as they get larger and not as crazy as males get at breeding season, some males even starve themselves to death in some species at breeding time and never eat again. Some you can assist feed to get them going again but that has its problems too) and exactly how I want them to look and must be in good health, The ETB I will get will be again one that has gone threw the colour change and a year or two old to prove it is a survivor and not one that will drop dead after a while. The ATB is like the one you have I'm after and again must have a nice look as the Halloween morph start out with the orange colouring and with every shed become less orange in the orange areas but the adult version is a very pretty look too. Yours is stunning as it has very defined patterning and will look great as an adult.

Yes the two vivs in one would be heated down the middle and cold ends at each end, that's why I say it would be easier to set that up ;) and make it look great. A project for the future, first I have to find a female ETB I like at a price I am willing to pay, that's the hurdle I have with pets I want to keep and not pets I'm re-homing because previous owners had some issue with them. The Ball Python I have was a re-homing snake as it tagged the owner and they freaked out and wanted rid of it, it was like 6 months old and tiny when I got her and she was basically a re-homing case to me when I got her but fell for her and she's now mine for good, sweetest girl and amazing personality and then you have people that call them pet rocks, she really is an amazing snake and has never shown that pet rock behaviour. One of the reasons I kept her because she was a very untypical Ball Python and has a very curious nature that I find really fun and she reminds me of my Burmese Python when she was younger too with the way she behaves.

So as you see I'm really picky when it comes to my personal pets and this is why I don't like how the "hobby" has become where people seem to collect them like playing cards and trade them in the same manner, my pets are life time pets not trading cards and the re-homing ones are ones I get to save their lives or to stop the previous owner getting hurt, all the re-homing ones when I get them are treated like my personal pets till I find them a good home that understands what they are getting into with keeping a snake, only snakes I don't re-home are the giants anymore as I don't have the space (Retics,Burmese, rock pythons, anacondas, Boa constrictors, large scub/amethystine pythons and some of the larger/giant colubrids as they can be a real handful when they don't play nice and extremely fast snakes), but if they are under 8 foot I might give them a chance if I know I can re-home them in a couple of weeks to a month, anything larger is a no go sadly in the place I live right now and if I had the space for such a large snake my 25 year old Burmese would be the first snake living with me and not at my mums in my old bedroom.


Also I hate that people that collect reptiles as a hobby/pet keep them in RUBs all their lives (breeders is a different matter), none of my snakes have ever lived in a RUBs for more than a year and that was the Ball Python only as she was a re-homing case and still a baby,then I realised she was a keeper and went straight into a Vivarium. I love to see them and see how they are doing every time I walk past them and handle them, a RUB is for breeders or very young snakes/reptiles that are stressed in a large Vivarium only.

Love what you are doing with the ATB in the small Exo and then moving it up to a bioactive that's how its done :). How is the ATBs attitude ? From the picture it looks like it has the typical ATB attitude ;) , more you handle it as a young one the better it will be as an adult with them, they are a lot easier than a GTP/ETB with an attitude as you will find out :), they actually make nice handling snakes when you get them from young and handle them, but of course always step with care around others with the ATB when an adult as they are very motion orientated so tell family/friends when it's out not to make sudden movements around it. Keep us updated on the reptiles.
 
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ATB has taken a back seat while i get work sorted.

More pressing matter my gopher has escaped, i went away with work and my brother stayed mine to change water and feed the snakes while i was away came back today and the gopher is no where to be seen, my brother forgot to put in the plastic lock in the hole in the glass which locks the doors and im guessing hes escaped through there. Any ideas how to try and find him ive searched everywhere but cant find him :(. My brother says he was in there yesterday as he fed himbut no where to be seen today.

Also i picked up 2 tarantulas while away with work not sure if anyone else has any but i have taken a real intrest in them over past week or so. Obviously not a reptile i know but ive found most reptile keepers i know have a T or 2.
 
ValiantUK91 said:
ATB has taken a back seat while i get work sorted.

More pressing matter my gopher has escaped, i went away with work and my brother stayed mine to change water and feed the snakes while i was away came back today and the gopher is no where to be seen, my brother forgot to put in the plastic lock in the hole in the glass which locks the doors and im guessing hes escaped through there. Any ideas how to try and find him ive searched everywhere but cant find him :(. My brother says he was in there yesterday as he fed himbut no where to be seen today.

Also i picked up 2 tarantulas while away with work not sure if anyone else has any but i have taken a real intrest in them over past week or so. Obviously not a reptile i know but ive found most reptile keepers i know have a T or 2.
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Any luck on the Gopher snake ?

I would start searching all the dark warm areas in the house and sticking plastic bags around the edges of the room so you can hear it moving about. Also a trick that seems to work for some is to stick a hide with a heat mat under half of it and covering it with say a towel and some water areas so it can get a drink. I have never tried any of these things but many say they work and they end up finding the snake in one of the hides.


I would do the hide trick and add some of the used bedding from its viv in there for scent of its home so it may draw it to hide. After a week I would try adding defrosted small mice in the hides and if nothing the day after give them to the rainbow to eat, small mice remember so that way in a week you may have tried 3 mice and 3 small mice are fine to give to the rainbow instead of its normal feed for that week. So you are not wasting the mice.


I have heard of people dusting the areas near doors with plain flour so they can see if the snake has moved about and flour around the edges of the room. Also another good idea is to make one room warm and make the rest cold and it should move into the warm room with the hide in it.

Really best thing is to start room by room and search and hope it didn't get outside which I doubt it so far as it was recently fed. Search higher up on shelves too they get in the funniest and strangest of places and in electrical appliances too they like to hide in the washing machine or dryer area underneath or the fridge or tv where they sense warmth and some where dark.


Don't give up and good luck.
 
No luck unfortunately, checked every room in the house, goinf to have another look today.

Ive tried the flour trick and bags aroubd edges of the room.

Ive got one big living room instead of 2 rooms with a dividing walls. Im thinking of putting the heating on turning all the radiators off apart from in the kitchen put flour down with hides with bedding from his viv and see if he moves into the kitchen.
 
I know they aren't reptiles, but this seemed the most suitable thread.
Had some jungle nymph stick insects since July now after having Indian stick insects when I was younger.
Apparently the heaviest stick insect in the world. Will post pics later. But they get this big..

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413x said:
I know they aren't reptiles, but this seemed the most suitable thread.
Had some jungle nymph stick insects since July now after having Indian stick insects when I was younger.
Apparently the heaviest stick insect in the world. Will post pics later. But they get this big..

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Very pretty, I really like some of the insects and would love to setup a display of some mixed types, but need to do a lot of research into them and what can live together and not get eaten or attacked by others.



Speaking of cool insects I saw this amazing Hawks Moth caterpillar pretending to be/look like a snake. Would so much love to have some of them and would love to keep butterflies too (again need a lot of research before all that and time). Amazing video below on twitter of it.

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So relieved tonight.

My female Royal came off a 9 month fast! She’s just turned her nose up at everything for the last 9 months. This time, I barely got the rat near the cage and she went ballistic! When I put it in her viv, she hit it like a cruise missile. Scoffed it down in ten mins. So relieved. I was really worried she was ill, although she hadn’t been losing weight.
 
Been a while since I posted in here. A few bits I've had going on since my last post

Pogona Minor - Just recently got him
Varanus macraei - Been setting up a new viv for him - It's the large one in the double stack.
I also now have a pair of vietnemese mossy frogs, which are pretty cool!

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My big boy Green iguana passed away almost two years ago. 18 strong years I got out of him. Since then me and my wife have had a little boy and I wanted to do what my father did with me and show me the world of reptiles. So I have went ahead and build a bioactive viv for a leopard gecko that I will have coming end of this month.

This is what his new home looks like. Plants are alive and they is clean up crew in here isopods coming soon. The T-rex skull is for the clean up crew to hide away throughout the day heat, its damp and cool under the slate.

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