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Some of you people are so lucky to have cool jobs working in a data centre. Hopefully once ive finished my degree and done 8 years or so of helpdesk/tech support work hopefully ill be able to get a job at a data centre

My second job after college saw me in charge of 7 millions pounds worth of kit, its not THAT great. I was on call 24x7 too for piddling wages. Its nice from a geeky point of view, but I think I prefer general tech where you get to meet people and fix all sorts of kit. In a datacentre its all pretty much the same and most datacentres I have been in had no windows, its surprising how much you miss being able to look out of the window when you haven't got any to look out of. Can make you very depressed.

Is it sad that even with all the noise of a datacentre, I can happily fall asleep in one because of the rhythmic humming of the fans, whereas if a mouse farts at home, Im awake?:D Before you say anything, staying awake for 22 hours solid isn't easy.
 
Yeah i understand that there are some bad points to working in a datacentre, but it just seems like the dream job for me. And its because datacentre jobs are quite rare it seems that im heavily considering doing a few years in the army as an installation tech (installing and maintaining network/computer equipment).
 
Some nice racks in here :D

I'd be shot if I even considered posting images of our setup! We have around 200 servers (HP, none of this Dell stuff), 50 of which reside in Schools, 1 per-school.
 
same here

i work for an NHS contractor. Considering they contain gigs worth of patient information im guessing it would be pretty much an instant sackable offence !!

theres been enough scandal about lost information before the Daily Mail gets wind of IT workers posting images "detailing server security for servers containing patient records" ..

i can see the headline now. But needless to say with us supplying 65% of GPs with their clinical system, and roughly 10 % of them having a colocation solution (as opposed to keeping them on their own server in the practice) that would be millions of patient records on those servers.
 
If I could get away with taking photographs of the stuff at work I would do. Talking about a ballpark of say 450-500 cabs full of servers. Some are co-lo stuff where the customer has done all the cabling and some are hosted where we've done all the cabling. The latter are usually pretty neat. The former you get everything from obsessively tidy to absolute pig-sty, the latter are all done very neatly to save hassles. If the data centre manager finds any managed cab that doesn't meet his anal level of neat and tidy, the NOC engineer that racked it all has to contact the customer and arrange for down time to re-cable properly. That's something you never want to have to speak to a customer about. Thankfully I'm no longer in NOC and in the data centres to have to worry so much about it :D
 
I'll have to post the before/after pics for the new network im planning at the moment. Pretty impressive difference if i can pull it off.
 
what is it with you people and worrying about posting pictures?

Im quite baffled tbh =/

I can understand why some people are nervous, but it is a bit daft.

I can't see any security risk by taking a picture of a server. Its just a big black box with a load of flashy lights. Its not like you're going to post the address of the server and admin login details with it. :p


Showing photographs of servers in our data centre reveals some of the security mechanisms we use. It also would show labels giving server names. All our servers, both company ones and customer ones are labelled so that NOC don't have to play guessing games if we need something rebooted or re-patched. Knowing the name of a server puts you in a much stronger position for starting to hack into it. Plus our customers wouldn't want competitors to know what hardware they're using, or where the equipment is stored. Besides electronic hacking there is the social engineering aspect of things to consider. Knowing where the servers are physically and being able to describe them exactly could be used to compromise security if the security people are half asleep. Social engineering is what scares us more from a security perspective, that's all dependant on Wetware.

Some of you people are so lucky to have cool jobs working in a data centre. Hopefully once ive finished my degree and done 8 years or so of helpdesk/tech support work hopefully ill be able to get a job at a data centre

I think you have a glorified notion of Data Centre work. With the kind of equipment that goes into a data centre its high availability, high uptime stuff. All work required to be done on them should be able to be done remotely. Hardware should be specced appropriately so hardware upgrades are extremely rare. There are essentially three main reasons to ever set foot inside a suite:
  1. Server is unresponsive remotely. Console it up, 99/100 it needs rebooted. Reboot, phone relevant person or if its your own equipment do your own tests
  2. New equipment needs racked. Donkey work. Open Cab, put rackmounting kit in place. Clip slides onto server, slide into rack. Patch cable (neatly) to patch panel at bottom of rack. In the connectivity rack patch into router/switch/whatever. Power on. Job Done.
  3. Backup tapes need replaced.

None of those require much skill. The first one requires a little skill with Linux and Windows for troubleshooting should it fail to restart properly, but that's usually about it. In a big disaster and a server needs rebuilt when I was in NOC we'd usually un-rack it and bring it back into the office as it was a lot more pleasant there and a DC is a nasty place to spend any length of time in.

Data Centres are nasty places. They're loud, usually devoid of natural light and the atmosphere is heavily aircon'd, very dry and cool. Most sensible people try to avoid setting foot inside them unless they absolutely can't avoid it :)

HP employ minimum wage monkeys to do their data centre work, they give them step by step instructions which they don't even have to understand the import of, and that's it. Only once in a blue moon does someone more skilled have to intervene.

The guys we employ at work to do DC stuff don't have to be particularly skilled to do it. Before I joined the Data centre staff at my employers I'd just picked up my CCNA, and had 6 1/2 years experience supporting desktops, and a tiny amount of exposure to Linux. The actual DC work never required any skill :) Working on customer servers remotely was where the skill stuff came in, and we teach that to the new recruits to the team, we just expect some fair skills in one or other of the two main server sides of things, either Windows or Linux; and understanding of how network traffic flows. A Comp Sci graduate could handle the kind of work required.
 
garp although you make it sound like an awfull job, personly i would still love to do a job like that. And you mention that it doesnt take a great deal of skill, but what about when you need to upgrade all your routers/switches to a newer model (i know this wont happen often, maybe once every few years, or sooner if you are constantly expanding) in a data centre environment i bet someone with just a CCNA wouldnt get on too well with replacing the old routers with new ones (unless of course its a simple matter of transfering the settings from old to new instead of creating the settings from scratch).
 
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Like someone on the first post said, is your company ok with this?

I could face prosecution if I did given the nature of the information they hold.
 
no pics at the moment but we're currently on 4 full height racks. 1 being the HP EVA SAN, 2 and 3 are filled with dell 1950/2950 units (DC's, file/print cluster, exchange front/back ends, SQL boxes, sales front/back ends, e-comms, design databases, mac raid boxes, firewalls, routing boxes etc etc etc), 4 is currently empty spare for expansion. that also excludes the AS400 boxes and the old archive tower units.

we're also on 6 full size racks of networking patching spread across 3 floors.

dell servers are fantastic for the cash. 99% of our kit here is dell and tbh i dont get why people **** them off. great value and frankly brilliant business support (i had a server PSU arrive 4 hrs after logging the support call once). we do have 4 hp servers only because the dell units we wanted were out of stock.
 
Just out of curiosity, where do the rest of you who can't show your racks work?

i've already said where i work, but i agree with others it is a bit silly. Its not showing you anything usefull

im just not so sure my bosses would agree. Things have become very sensitive around here since the child benfit discs went missing. And im sure the daily mail or some such other rag would gleefully make a story out of nothing too. Since when has the Daily Mail let truth get in the way of a good story ?

I could probably get away with it, but dont fancy chancing it. And my boss would look at me funny if i asked if i could post pictures of our racks in a geeks willy waving contest on the web :D
 
Just out of curiosity, where do the rest of you who can't show your racks work?

Not saying but use your imagination, work places could be, Defence Industry, Electronics Industry, Telecommunications, Government, Avionics Industry, Public Service, Military just to name a few.
 
garp although you make it sound like an awfull job, personly i would still love to do a job like that. And you mention that it doesnt take a great deal of skill, but what about when you need to upgrade all your routers/switches to a newer model (i know this wont happen often, maybe once every few years, or sooner if you are constantly expanding) in a data centre environment i bet someone with just a CCNA wouldnt get on too well with replacing the old routers with new ones (unless of course its a simple matter of transfering the settings from old to new instead of creating the settings from scratch).

In our place, the people who manage the servers, and do admin stuff dont touch the routers. That is all done by the cisco guy/s. He gets more wonga than us little network admin people and he's certainly far beyound CCNA skill (which any kid can achieve) He works his own hours and seems to come in whenever he wants, but is mostly always a phonecall away and will fix anything within a few mins.

Working in a datacenter will gradually wear you down and make you sick of computers. Even though the money was crap, I much prefered being a technician and fixing all sorts of problems than what I do now. But it's money for old rope, so you get lazy and just sit here doing nothing (until something breaks)
 
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