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Sick days off work: how many is too many per year ?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by chaparral, Apr 24, 2019.

  1. bigmike20vt

    Wise Guy

    Joined: May 23, 2006

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    nonsense..... indeed making colleagues feel guilty such that they feel obliged to come in and spread their illness is more worthy of a slapped wrist imo.

    but that said.... what penalty should posting on forums in work time receive? ;)

    (joking aside i think if i owned a company i would put a ban on all social media sites and forum access in work time - with possible exception for lunch break. )

    .
    Reminds me a bit of this old advert
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-qGHvk4-Ew
     
  2. -UnderClocker-

    Gangster

    Joined: May 14, 2018

    Posts: 114

    If I'm really sick (vomiting, diarrhea, major headaches) I wont go into work. But when it comes to having a cold/flu, it's not enough for me to not come in. I have bills to pay and sadly bills never get sick. As for how much is too much.. It's hard to say really. It depends on what you do for a living I'd imagine.
     
  3. NoobCannon

    Mobster

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    And “smoke breaks”.
     
  4. bigmike20vt

    Wise Guy

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    nods..... not really an issue these days, no one in my entire group smokes but back in the day as a non smoker i proper lost out.
     
  5. CircleFaust

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    it depends how many days you are taking off
    if it's every other monday then they will see this as a problem. if you are off with the flu for a week then there's not much you can do
    and if you are unlucky enough to get it again , well not much you can do, you will be off

    the only time i generally take sick days is if i get the flu, last time was 3 days off with it
    i try not to take days with the cold, even a bad one.
    just try and keep the days down to a minimum and you will stay in the employers good books. but don't be a martyr either if you genuinely cannot work.
     
  6. FTM

    Soldato

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    Location: South Shields

    3 periods of sickness OR 9 days or more will see you interviewed by HR at our place
     
  7. Pyr0m@nI@]{

    Hitman

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    Location: Merseyside, UK

    lol
    I didn't mean to lump them together as such, i just meant I haven't managed to catch anything and haven't been ill for years.
     
  8. Maccy

    Commissario

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    Location: Back in Blighty

    No such thing as a sick day, we soldier through!
     
  9. Kronos

    Catwalker

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    Posts: 3,691

    Location: Edinburgh

    In my last job I was the eldest there by quite a margin but did not have a day off in 5 years. The young uns would have a day off for a paper cut.
     
  10. Pyr0m@nI@]{

    Hitman

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    Posts: 686

    Location: Merseyside, UK

    ^this
    We hired a couple of young lads last year who ended up taking odd days off here and there, often Mondays.

    They're no longer working here
     
  11. Terminal_Boy

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    Not when you have shared air-conditioning in a large building and parents of school-age children working in it. You can guarantee a good year-round supply of germs.
     
  12. Pawnless Endgame

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 10, 2004

    Posts: 10,289

    Location: Sunny Stafford

    My workplace does it by the number of absences in a rolling 12 months.

    1 or 2 absences in rolling 12 months = you're ok
    3rd absence in rolling 12 months = stage 1 warning

    Stage 1 is just verbal and stays on file for 6 months. Stage 2 is written. Stage 3 is disciplinary. Stage 4 is dismissal.

    They also look for pattens like single-day Mondays/Fridays or around pay day to weed out the drunks etc which I think is fair.

    There is an extra rule (my department only) where if it's just a cold, we are allowed to work from home on our company laptops which means that we can still get work done, not bring germs to other colleagues and it also means that we don't incur an absence penalty against the rolling 12 months.
     
  13. MassiveJim

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    Is your companies Bradford trigger that low ?

    Ours is 64, which means any 4 absences in a 12 month period will trigger no matter the length of absence.
     
  14. Ocean Breeze

    Hitman

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    Anything more than 5 days per year is too much imo.
     
  15. Haggisman

    Capodecina

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    Location: Birmingham

    When I say "caught out", I didn't mean any disciplinary action, just that due the nature of the calculation my rating is quite high despite the overall low level of absence
     
  16. dowie

    Caporegime

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    Yikes, what a **** company to work for!
     
  17. Terminal_Boy

    Soldato

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    Indeed, I’d have been sacked after 6 months.

    Wonder who his employer is.
     
  18. montymint

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    My partner worked at NPower who were exactly like that. Which was difficult for her as she has long term health issues that they are aware of - so she was constantly in a battle with them. I was pleased for her when she was made redundent. She's moved on to a much better firm.
     
  19. Caracus2k

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    You have already likely passed it on so this is a rather week excuse... The only exception I would strongly agree with is a 'front of house' or food service role where no customer or client wants to deal with a sputtering employee.

    Yes I know it goes on to state you at your most contagious when symptoms first appear but this is also the time when the contagious and thoose around them will consciously be changing their behaviour to avoid infection. Regardless unless you work in some specific industries in wouldn't be practical for everyone to take two weeks of every time they contacted a common cold.

    The 'professionals'would not agree with you because they would know that quoting a (mean) average like the article does in its headline without looking more in detail at things like the median, the distribution and underlying reasons would be very misleading.

    That statistic conflates thoose who are off work for months on end often for things like serious physical injury with thoose taking numerous self certified days here and there.

    An employee who takes 4 days of every year for thirty years self certified and one who doesn't take any sick for twenty nine years but in one year takes 120 days of because they broke their leg on the job would both contribute equally to the (mean) average sickeness in that period but would obviously be rather different from an employee point of view.
     
  20. johnny6

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    My company have quite a reasonable sickness policy I believe.

    If we are talking short term sickness than company policy is 10 days in a rolling 12 months. Any more than that involves a conversation with HR.

    If we are talking long term sickness for major illnesses then company policy is up to 12 months full pay and then there is a discussion with HR to assess the individual case.