Sick, older lady is handed a P45 during a public speech at work!

I am not selling her short. I am just saying that she as a person does not have a fan base like Corbyn. Her supporters are general conservative party supporters.

Where Corbyn is a character and a figurehead for his type of 'labour', Theresa May is just the top cog in the conservative machine.

My point is that if conservative leadership were to change, they would not lose support as a result of Theresa May fans finding a new representative to put their support behind.

I am not saying May is less successful as a leader, just that she does not garner the sort of support Corbyn does. It is easy to find Corbyn supporters that are not necessarily labour supporters but is it easy to find Theresa May supporters that are not necessarily Conservative party supporters?

Personally i am no fan of either.
 
wildman said:
you should have a quiet word with yourself instead mate before you trigger yourself again. The security detail worked fine. The security on the outside is where it counts and he was a badged attendee so went through all the necessary checks and clearances. There was zero chance he could pull a knife,gun, bomb on May in that speech because of the level of the security outside in the first place that meant he would have never made it through the first cordon
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exactly trying to explain to people that security happens outside the building not 10ft away is seemingly impossible.

the police charging in and dragging him off woupd have been a nightmare

as it was it was felt with as the trivial childish thing thst it was
 
Avenged7Fold said:
I am not selling her short. I am just saying that she as a person does not have a fan base like Corbyn. Her supporters are general conservative party supporters.

Where Corbyn is a character and a figurehead for his type of 'labour', Theresa May is just the top cog in the conservative machine.

My point is that if conservative leadership were to change, they would not lose support as a result of Theresa May fans finding a new representative to put their support behind.

I am not saying May is less successful as a leader, just that she does not garner the sort of support Corbyn does. It is easy to find Corbyn supporters that are not necessarily labour supporters but is it easy to find Theresa May supporters that are not necessarily Conservative party supporters?

Personally i am no fan of either.
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exactly people voted conservative not for Teresa may.

while on the other hand people voted for corbyn not labour.

a lot of cons csme our to vote purely to coubter corbyn not to support may
 
Tefal said:
exactly people voted conservative not for Teresa may.

while on the other hand people voted for corbyn not labour.

a lot of cons csme our to vote purely to coubter corbyn not to support may
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I was really not a fan of Corbyn and that push me over to vote Tory. I would've considered Lib Dem if they would have pull themselves together.
 
To vote Tory, not TM. The point still stands. Hate him or love him, he is a character that make people hate or love him.

To say that about TM would be a big stretch. I can't think of even a few members on these forums that are TM fans (not Tory boys but actually a fan of TM)
 
A lot of people who voted Conservatives this time around will vote for UKIP next election if there is not a clean/hard Brexit which ensures our full sovereignty, the last election was largely a rerun of the Brexit vote.
 
mmj_uk said:
A lot of people who voted Conservatives this time around will vote for UKIP next election if there is not a clean/hard Brexit which ensures our full sovereignty, the last election was largely a rerun of the Brexit vote.
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Sovereignty is important to a lot of Brexit voters until from when it’s used to water down or abort Brexit.
 
mmj_uk said:
A lot of people who voted Conservatives this time around will vote for UKIP next election if there is not a clean/hard Brexit which ensures our full sovereignty, the last election was largely a rerun of the Brexit vote.
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Good. Wonder what those 3 MPs will be able to do about it though. :D
 
I think it's weird that this speech is being touted as a reason for sacking May. She had a cold. So what? It happens. People get colds. It's not a sign that they're not fit to lead a political party. There are plenty of good reasons for wanting rid of her, but her getting a cold isn't one of them.
 
Energize said:
Absolutely disgraceful that he was arrested for a prank like that, totally non violent and non threatening, the pigs just used any excuse to lock him up because he embarrassed the prime minister. :rolleyes: The police force are shameful. :(
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What? He was arrested and escorted out to prevent a breach of the peace, and then released soon after.

You make it sound like the police are on the side of TM when I can assure you, they are not.
 
Angilion said:
I think it's weird that this speech is being touted as a reason for sacking May. She had a cold. So what? It happens. People get colds. It's not a sign that they're not fit to lead a political party. There are plenty of good reasons for wanting rid of her, but her getting a cold isn't one of them.
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Couldn't agree more.
 
There was a remark on the news quiz on Friday that the cough sweet that Philip Hammond gave her had been passed forward by some random bod in the crowd. Does that not seem a pretty big hole in security, given we're getting all worked up about your man trying to hand her a piece of paper?
 
Am I the only one who thinks she is a terrible wreck at public speaking? She always seems nervous and on the verge of a breakdown anytime I see her speaking.
 
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