Pricing people put is usualy part of the solution. People need something to lose
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Pricing people put is usualy part of the solution. People need something to lose
It’s dis86, he likes to be incredibly obtuse and he’d argue black is white. Like a fourteen year old me that never grew up!
But there's nothing that stops you keeping a kart in your garage? Or your kitchen for that matter!
From the sounds of it, it is looking like it might be a sec 2 pump action he's used.
but why would i, i can't use it easily. but that's beside the point, apologies if it wasn't quite as clear as i thought it was.
They are interviewing her on LBC atm.
There are already a lot of barriers. Someone committed a crime, it was a very rare crime already. Occasionally psychos do bad things, it's not something that happens every 3 months.
You’re right there are. But having a few more would do absolutely no harm to legit ownership apart from mild inconvenience and would help prevent the already, thankfully, rare occurrence of gun killing sprees.
I have a location I could exercise shooting rights on. It's several dozen acres of woodland in the country a long way from home. Not even a building there.
An amateur hunter has permission to access that same woodland and shoot deer. In fact he gets permission from quite a few landowners for the same purpose.
Then there's the people who regularly pack up their guns and travel across the country to hunting events and competitions.
And those with substantial firearms collections.
I don't even own a firearm or advocate for more guns yet you've got me seeing your repeated "store it at the range" chanting as extremely narrow tunnel vision.
Well, I agree with you on that, but just as the way to shed light on Isis is not by sharing their propaganda videos, the way to shed light on the radicalisation of this murderer is not to share the videos he created and wanted people to watch.
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Maybe less attention needs to be paid to his self identification of being an "incel" and more paid to him being another case of being terminally online.
Incel is the symptom, merging online with reality is the real danger for people like him.
Incel is the symptom, merging online with reality is the real danger for people like him.
I know what you mean, my eldest has lived in Germany for over thirty years.
Whenever there’s a terrorist scare, shooting, or even the recent floods, I get goosebumps until I find out that it doesn’t involve his city or State.
So you have access to it when you have the opportunity to use it. It's one of those situations where if you have it you might just make those opportunities.
If you don't have it then you'll never use it. Just like yourself and the kart you'd like to own.
Also just to be very clear I'm against gun ownership for anything except target/clay shooting and some pest control.
Luckily this is super rare.
There really is no reason for non farmers to have guns
Sure. Go to a gun club. Have a blast. But no need to have them at home. Thankfully this isn't a common thing like on USA.
Sounds like the guy was deep into the 'I'm repressed member of society' club.
I believe these things should be talked about. These underground clubs grow and grow. And if they are just left you end up with a problem.
What a horrible event. As always. He topped himself before could face consequences
There really is no reason for non farmers to have guns
Sure. Go to a gun club. Have a blast. But no need to have them at home. Thankfully this isn't a common thing like on USA.
Sounds like the guy was deep into the 'I'm repressed member of society' club.
I believe these things should be talked about. These underground clubs grow and grow. And if they are just left you end up with a problem.
What a horrible event. As always. He topped himself before could face consequences
Totally understandable. I remember the fear I felt for my brother, who was working in London at the time, after the July 7th attacks. Rationally, I knew there was no chance, but still...
To be honest it's hard to have these discussions as ideologically you want the government to be your parents, I don't want people walking the streets with weapons like in America but I feel the UK is already exceptionally safe with sensible well thought out firearms laws. At a point you need to acknowledge that guns exist, and someone can misuse them if they really want to. If no one could legally get a gun in the UK then someone would still illegally obtain one and shoot a number of people once every 5-10 years, that's just reality.
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This, about 60% of gun crime in recent years is committed with handguns, a type of firearm all but banned for legal ownership in Great Britain (Legal in Northern Ireland), unless you're really lucky and have reason to have a Section 5 licence, or a Section 7.1 or 7.3 licence.
no, i most certainly do not want the government to be my parents. the discussion is hard to have because your argument is and has been easily countered so now you're trying to use nonsense posts.
yes, we have very good gun laws in the UK but they could be better. not just because someone went on a shooting spree. they could just in general be better.