Siliconslave's how to make espresso thread

Do you think the cheaper blade grinders are worth it?

What about the slightly more expensive krups gvx2?

Coffee technical elitism aside, what you've got there in terms of crema looks amazing to mine.

sid

My Starbucks grinder was originally bought when i was at uni, just used it for a cafeterie, I am saving for a burr grinder like the one the OP has in Post 1.

Is the krups blade or burr? If its blade then i don't think they matters, burr is best.

The one thing i have problem with blade is that it is difficult to get a good consistency, you have to time it right, it is easily grind too fine or too long.
 
My Starbucks grinder was originally bought when i was at uni, just used it for a cafeterie, I am saving for a burr grinder like the one the OP has in Post 1.

Is the krups blade or burr? If its blade then i don't think they matters, burr is best.

The one thing i have problem with blade is that it is difficult to get a good consistency, you have to time it right, it is easily grind too fine or too long.

Well if £15 gives something that looks like that then I'm all for it tbh.

The krups one is a fake burr grinder of sorts I suppose, not reccomended but cheap and I can go buy from shop now as well.

sid
 
Yeah, you can get crema like that with blade as I've proved, :), but i have had at times did it too fine or not fine enough. One time i had it too fine it just stuck, nothing was coming out at all !

I find now 15 seconds in the blade grinder is best, all the while i am shaking it when its grinding.
 
Yeah, you can get crema like that with blade as I've proved, :), but i have had at times did it too fine or not fine enough. One time i had it too fine it just stuck, nothing was coming out at all !

I find now 15 seconds in the blade grinder is best, all the while i am shaking it when its grinding.

Looks like you can grind fine enough to choke the machine,

Mine just rushes atm no matter what so time for a decent tamper, a grinder of sorts and roast coffee

Might head off to whittards of chelsea and get some roast

sid
 
Do what i do now, save you more money in the long run.

Get beans from Hasbean, they are usually roasted the day of purchase and post the same day, you get it next day. I buy 3-5 bags at a time to save postage, open 1 bag into a air tight jar and keep in fridge, put the rest in a freezer until i need it.

Then grind just enough when you need it, because the beans loses oil to the air when exposed, even in an air tight jar, a pre-grind bag will go off quite quickly. If you get a ginder you can do a test on some fresh grind and some that's been sitting there for 30 mins.

I mean £15 for a blade grinder is nothing really, i've had it for like 3/4 years so it's had its fair run and got my money's worth.
 
Do what i do now, save you more money in the long run.

Get beans from Hasbean, they are usually roasted the day of purchase and post the same day, you get it next day. I buy 3-5 bags at a time to save postage, open 1 bag into a air tight jar and keep in fridge, put the rest in a freezer until i need it.

Then grind just enough when you need it, because the beans loses oil to the air when exposed, even in an air tight jar, a pre-grind bag will go off quite quickly. If you get a ginder you can do a test on some fresh grind and some that's been sitting there for 30 mins.

I mean £15 for a blade grinder is nothing really, i've had it for like 3/4 years so it's had its fair run and got my money's worth.


I bought some ground coffee from hasbean already and it did arrive on time. However, their espresso grind wasn't fine enough imho and it still rushes.

sid
 
Ok. you've made me take a new video of my pour just now..
Just waiting on youtube to cope with a 500MB AVI :) ... will give the thread a poke when it's completed and the video is uploaded..

The camera colours aren't great in video mode and hope youtube doesn't mess up the light levels but I just wanted to show the tamping bit (and the gratuitous crema porn).

The beans were roasted on the 22nd, so they're not that fresh but still taste fine. They're ground just before the video because it's not interesting to watch and the noise drowns out any audio. The grinder is a MCAP MC4 stepless (flat burr) which is the silver thing next to the MCAL at about 4:30.. but I digress..

I break up the clumps with a fork so the ground coffee has a fluffy appearance. The distribution means a more uniform spacing of coffee and usually means less channelling etc. Usually I'd use less coffee but it's easier to show with a big mound of coffee.
The MCAL portafilter has mechanism for holding the basket but the basket doesn't have a corresponding notch to lock into hence I do everything in the basket then insert the basket into the filter.

I hope this shows the better fit with the tamper (same as Raymond's) into the basket and the amount of pressure I'm putting on - most of my body weight. I don't faff about and just press and go with the tamp.

Shot tasted good, although it may have not looked perfect the taste had no sour or bitter notes.

Sic- I think you're well on the way to diagnosing your problem. I think that Raymond has more experience as you have the same machine. I would suggest a proper tamper as it will last, it will help the prep and consistency. Some people use the bottom of a glass baby or mustard jar - what ever is hard, flat, can cope with the pressure and fits snugly into the basket. It may be worth having a look in the cupboard to see if you have anything you can use.
Once the tamping is consistent this points directly at the coffee grounds.. which differ from machine to machine.

if you do get a grinder, get some tinned Illy beans to help dial in the grinding. You don't want to waste good beans.

As to the gvx2 - looking at home barista here this seems to be a not much more than just an imitation flat burr so I'd look at a good conical or flatburr which would resolve the problem.
There's very few proper grinders in the £20 bracket unless you get a second hand manual..
Coffeegeek has a superb review second for grinders - for example the starbucks/dualite reviewedhere
You can even look at the reviews by price.
 
Ok guys I think I seriously need some help here

Please!!

I got this cuisinart DM8BU grinder and for starters, even on the fine-est setting it is not very fine.

Secondly ( I think this may be my problem) , I got some colombia roast coffee beans from Whittards of Chelsea and my god that has resulted in a epic fail. The coffee tastes watered down and totally worse than what I was getting with the old one.

I will take some photos in a bit of my kit but I managed to pick up a cheap decentish tamper from whittards which is much better than the plastic one and im sure does the job fine.

Can only certain coffee's bee espresso'ed?



I'm going to order some off hasbean now but so feel free to reccomend?

That kenyan stuff I just opened was a bit sour :(

FFS :@ :@ :@
 
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Ok,

I'm going to get Hasbean espresso blend and Has bean premium espresso blend roast beans for more experiments.

If this doesn't work, I fear it may be time to give up tbh lol

sid
 
I got this cuisinart DM8BU grinder and for starters, even on the fine-est setting it is not very fine.
...
The coffee tastes watered down and totally worse than what I was getting with the old one.
Under-extraction if not ground fine enough?
I'm going to order some off hasbean now but so feel free to reccomend?
The standard espresso blend is a good start. Assuming the discount codes aren't unique, I've used it a few times now, "887767" should give you a 10% off.
That kenyan stuff I just opened was a bit sour :(
Similar experience with some Kenyan beans I bought from Sains to test my grinder.
 
Ok,

I'm going to get Hasbean espresso blend and Has bean premium espresso blend roast beans for more experiments.

If this doesn't work, I fear it may be time to give up tbh lol

sid
What machine by the way? We had an Ascaso one at work which did lovely espresso but never put a crema on the top no matter what coffee we used. My Gaggia Classic on the other hand froths it up like Guinness. Tried all the coffees at Whittard? Their espresso machine grind seems to suit my machine pretty well.
 
What machine by the way? We had an Ascaso one at work which did lovely espresso but never put a crema on the top no matter what coffee we used. My Gaggia Classic on the other hand froths it up like Guinness. Tried all the coffees at Whittard? Their espresso machine grind seems to suit my machine pretty well.

Well I've just tried one so far,

Does anyone know if anything from like Starbucks or anything else I can get from high street will be decent?

I'm very impatient lol
 
Under-extraction if not ground fine enough?

The standard espresso blend is a good start. Assuming the discount codes aren't unique, I've used it a few times now, "887767" should give you a 10% off.

Similar experience with some Kenyan beans I bought from Sains to test my grinder.

Thanks for the coupon code btw,

I suppose at the end of the day I end up making a latte/cappucino from the espresso anyways so it doesn't matter too much about the taste but I'm really jealous of Raymond Lin's shots with the crema.
 
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