Lighter roasts are denser and tougher on grinders. Also harder to extract. Can try longer ratios 1:3 or 1:4 and/or increase your boiler temp by a degree or 2.
Siliconslave's how to make espresso thread
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I'm in line for a healthy Christmas bonus and I'm thinking of spending some of it on a grinder.
I use an Aeropress and V60 (currently debating a Switch), and I have no intention of going into espresso, so I've been looking at the Fellow Ode Gen 2, which I can get for just over £300.
I can't really justify £500+ for a Niche Zero or Timemore Sculptor (although the latter does look and sound amazing).
Does anyone have any better recommendations than the Ode?
I use an Aeropress and V60 (currently debating a Switch), and I have no intention of going into espresso, so I've been looking at the Fellow Ode Gen 2, which I can get for just over £300.
I can't really justify £500+ for a Niche Zero or Timemore Sculptor (although the latter does look and sound amazing).
Does anyone have any better recommendations than the Ode?
Thanks. I should have specified that I'm not interested in a hand grinder.
a couple of the Eureka Mignons come in under £300.
you will get a killer hand grinder for that, but fare enough if you don't want the morning workout
you will get a killer hand grinder for that, but fare enough if you don't want the morning workout
I got the outin portable espresso maker recently
It's shockingly decent get 4-5 70ml espressos (either your own grind or the nespresso pods) from cold water and like 100+ supposedly with hot water the pump doesn't seem to really use much battery.
Takes about 3 mins from cold or instant with hot water. It's nice to be able to make coffee either out on a walk or without getting out of bed.
Its like those wacaco ones but with a water boiler
It's shockingly decent get 4-5 70ml espressos (either your own grind or the nespresso pods) from cold water and like 100+ supposedly with hot water the pump doesn't seem to really use much battery.
Takes about 3 mins from cold or instant with hot water. It's nice to be able to make coffee either out on a walk or without getting out of bed.
Its like those wacaco ones but with a water boiler
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How come?
for grinders that don't do espresso - is that really an indication of less uniformity of grind size & lower tolerances - so could impact filter taste too
(yes - you might need to design the coffee path to accept a more powderous material too)
- no sign of those Mignon's that duelit were selling in previous years/xmas's ?
(yes - you might need to design the coffee path to accept a more powderous material too)
- no sign of those Mignon's that duelit were selling in previous years/xmas's ?
the big difference between espresso and filter grinders is usually the motor power and cooling, espresso grinds (and finer) put more stress on the motor so you end up burning it out - good filter grinders (like the Ode) will grind down to espresso once in a while, but not back to back.
I think there is also different bur designs for filter as well, but i'm not sure if that means espresso burs are better than filter burs
I think there is also different bur designs for filter as well, but i'm not sure if that means espresso burs are better than filter burs
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Picked up Sainsbury's Fairtrade House Blend Original Coffee, Strength 3 and Lavazza Ground Decaf Coffee to get me going with the cafetiere I recently found at the back of the cupboard. I know it isn't anything fancy but it so much smoother and tastier than the instant granules I have had up until now. I am warming up the milk on the hob and frothing with a whisk but a dedicated milk frother would be handy. Just want one that gets the milk hot for hot chocolate also so my partner can use. I don't want luke warm milk in the coffee.
Any one with a decent milk frother? Something like this one?
Are these any good for Oat or Almond 'Milk'?
Any one with a decent milk frother? Something like this one?
Are these any good for Oat or Almond 'Milk'?
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Soldato
I've seen the DualIt Milk Frother get some reasonable reviews. The internals are pretty much the same as a Hotel Chocolat Velvetiser for half the price.
Caporegime
Fellow Ode Gen 2 at £350 would be my choice for a very close contender to the Niche, even if it’s £500 but at £350 it’s a win for me.
It has the new de-ioniser, better burrs in the gen 2, flat burrs too. Single dosing like the Niche.
Caporegime
Speaking of which….the gen 1 is £160!!!!!
Fellow Ode Brew Grinder - Electric Burr Coffee Grinder, 31 Settings for Drip, French Press, Cold Brew, Small Footprint, Matte Black (220v, Type G Plug) https://amzn.eu/d/7vznuMc
Fellow Ode Brew Grinder - Electric Burr Coffee Grinder, 31 Settings for Drip, French Press, Cold Brew, Small Footprint, Matte Black (220v, Type G Plug) https://amzn.eu/d/7vznuMc
Thanks, @Raymond Lin.
I know you can get the gen 2 burrs for £80, so £240 total.
The gen 2 comes with other improvements like a better designed hopper and deioniser etc. Maybe not worth the upgrade for £110 difference, but I’ve seen the gen 2 for £305, which makes me think a £65 difference is probably worth it.
@Siliconslave - I got a bit lost with the Eureka Mignon lineup but I must admit, I prefer the look of the Ode.
I know you can get the gen 2 burrs for £80, so £240 total.
The gen 2 comes with other improvements like a better designed hopper and deioniser etc. Maybe not worth the upgrade for £110 difference, but I’ve seen the gen 2 for £305, which makes me think a £65 difference is probably worth it.
@Siliconslave - I got a bit lost with the Eureka Mignon lineup but I must admit, I prefer the look of the Ode.
Caporegime
I think the de-ioniser would be a worthwhile upgrade because that is one big problem with the gen 1. It makes a mess on the countertop.
df64 too -
https://www.dualit.com/products/handheld-milk-frother does look decent and well built and seems to get hotter as it melts chocolate also.
Caporegime
Just realised that £305 price was ex VAT. Doh.
£345 seems to be the best price I can find now.
I was wondering where you got £305 from, it's £350 everywhere I've seen lol
Get it with cashback credit card to knock may be 1% off....I think it's worth it. The money i paid for the Niche is a lot but it's something that has 1 button, super simple, last 10, 20 years hopefully.