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Interesting to see about the times.

I've seen a few Golf R's that are Stage 3, roughly 520-550hp running 10.7s at Pod. So maybe a bit lower at Crail idk. Might be down the the weight of the car.
 
JJB said:
Interesting to see about the times.

I've seen a few Golf R's that are Stage 3, roughly 520-550hp running 10.7s at Pod. So maybe a bit lower at Crail idk. Might be down the the weight of the car.
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Such Golfs are completely stripped out and with full slicks. Mine was full weight and normal tyres but, having said that 11.2 is possible under ideal weather conditions with the new dsg map.
 
ScoobyDoo69 said:
Weight, gearbox, short ratios. Golf Rs are so fast with modifications.

I believe the latest Golf R has a 7 speed DSG with even quicker ratios.
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Indeed they are. Exceptionally good cars to mod, and can be done on a relative budget. The new 7.5 R does indeed have the 7 speed, however there has been no tune made for it as of yet. No doubt it will be coming in the near future but from what I've seen cars that have been remapped with the new gearbox haven't seen any issues. So I can only imagine it to be even better when optimised.

Micloi said:
Such Golfs are completely stripped out and with full slicks. Mine was full weight and normal tyres but, having said that 11.2 is possible under ideal weather conditions with the new dsg map.
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Not really, there are a few on the Facebook group I'm in, full weight, 99 octane, usually PS4 or PS4S as tyres, and are used as dailies. It's difficult to get the "best" time as there are so many variables of course
 
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Micloi said:
Such Golfs are completely stripped out and with full slicks. Mine was full weight and normal tyres but, having said that 11.2 is possible under ideal weather conditions with the new dsg map.
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yes there's deffo something wrong with that 900hp/ 10.2.............because even the plymouth belvedere with 700hp will do a 10 sec 1/4 and that is a really heavy car.
 
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JJB said:
Not really, there are a few on the Facebook group I'm in, full weight, 99 octane, usually PS4 or PS4S as tyres, and are used as dailies. It's difficult to get the "best" time as there are so many variables of course
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Full weight with 520-530hp and normal tyres doing 10.7 at Santa Pod? Not at Crail (or abroad) or with their own recording equipment.
 
Mal X said:
yes there's deffo something wrong with that 900hp/ 10.2.............because even the plymouth belvedere with 700hp will do a 10 sec 1/4 and that is a really heavy car.
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Power isn't the only factor. Gearbox type/gear ratios/speed of gear changes are all major factors, as is the launch speed, etc.
 
Micloi said:
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Full weight with 520-530hp and normal tyres doing 10.7 at Santa Pod? Not at Crail (or abroad) or with their own recording equipment.
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10.66 @ 127.54
10.79 @ 127.19
11.08 @ 126.05

All them 3 cars I know for definite have ran with full interior, tuned to Stage 3/road tyres. With printouts to verify of course..
 
"Stage 3" is such a meaningless phrase. What it constitutes varies depending on the car/engine, the tuning company, etc.

I've just decided that my car is Stage 5 tuned, because I fitted a cone filter myself and thats what I want to call it. Stages 1 to 4 are lesser filters.
 
Acme said:
"Stage 3" is such a meaningless phrase. What it constitutes varies depending on the car/engine, the tuning company, etc.

I've just decided that my car is Stage 5 tuned, because I fitted a cone filter myself and thats what I want to call it. Stages 1 to 4 are lesser filters.
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When people are singing off the same hymn sheet it becomes meaningful. Stage 3 = upgraded turbo, intake, intercooler, exhaust, turbo elbow. For this car specifically.
 
JJB said:
10.66 @ 127.54
10.79 @ 127.19
11.08 @ 126.05

All them 3 cars I know for definite have ran with full interior, tuned to Stage 3/road tyres. With printouts to verify of course..
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Would love to see the car details and printouts (especially 60ft). Been doing this for sometime and know most cars and owners and full weight/normal tyres and 10.66 with 520hp at Santa Pod I have not seen. Happy to be proven wrong.

ps. 10.79@127 sounds like Andy's car. That's a TT v5 car and is not making only 520-530. Also it was not at Santa Pod but on the road and recorded with Dragy.
 
Acme said:
"Stage 3" is such a meaningless phrase. What it constitutes varies depending on the car/engine, the tuning company, etc.

I've just decided that my car is Stage 5 tuned, because I fitted a cone filter myself and thats what I want to call it. Stages 1 to 4 are lesser filters.
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When people start talking about stages in car tuning you know they more often than not haven't a clue what they're talking about.

There are actual stages but there's a hell of a lot more to it than walking in to a dealer and going "I want stage 3 please".

Stage 1 is about the only one which can be generalised as it usually means the car's breathing has been improved, usually a filter and a pipe. Even that however can vary rather dramatically.
 
Micloi said:
Would love to see the car details and printouts (especially 60ft). Been doing this for sometime and know most cars and owners and full weight/normal tyres and 10.66 with 520hp at Santa Pod I have not seen. Happy to be proven wrong.
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I can vouch for the spec on the 11.06:
  • MRC Stage 3 ECU and DSG map (524PS/671NM)
  • Turbo Technics V4 hybrid IS38 turbo
  • Full turbo-back, valved, Milltek exhaust system
  • Wagner intercooler
  • Autotech HPFP
  • Unitronic carbon fibre air intake (including pipe and elbow)
  • GFB DV+
  • NGK Racing R7438-9 spark plugs
  • 4 BAR map sensors
  • KW V3 coilovers
  • 034 Motorsport Rear ARB
  • ATS Racelight, 19x8.5j ET35, wheels in Satin Black
I shall report back with prinout/60ft if the owner sends it.

Acme said:
"Stage 3" is such a meaningless phrase. What it constitutes varies depending on the car/engine, the tuning company, etc.

I've just decided that my car is Stage 5 tuned, because I fitted a cone filter myself and thats what I want to call it. Stages 1 to 4 are lesser filters.
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Diddums said:
When people start talking about stages in car tuning you know they more often than not haven't a clue what they're talking about.

There are actual stages but there's a hell of a lot more to it than walking in to a dealer and going "I want stage 3 please".

Stage 1 is about the only one which can be generalised as it usually means the car's breathing has been improved, usually a filter and a pipe. Even that however can vary rather dramatically.
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For reference, when I say Stage 3, I'm referring to the ECU tune, not the general state of the car. As we all know 2 peoples "Stage 3 car" will be different.
 
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JJB said:
For reference, when I say Stage 3, I'm referring to the ECU tune, not the general state of the car. As we all know 2 peoples "Stage 3 car" will be different.
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:rolleyes:


Diddums said:
Stage 1 is about the only one which can be generalised as it usually means the car's breathing has been improved, usually a filter and a pipe. Even that however can vary rather dramatically.
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See, from what I've seen I thought Stage 1 usually just refers to an ECU remap and nothing else, Stage 2 usually refers to bolt-on's and a remap, and Stage 3 is where the turbo gets upgraded.
 
JJB said:
I can vouch for the spec on the 11.06:
  • MRC Stage 3 ECU and DSG map (524PS/671NM)
  • Turbo Technics V4 hybrid IS38 turbo
  • Full turbo-back, valved, Milltek exhaust system
  • Wagner intercooler
  • Autotech HPFP
  • Unitronic carbon fibre air intake (including pipe and elbow)
  • GFB DV+
  • NGK Racing R7438-9 spark plugs
  • 4 BAR map sensors
  • KW V3 coilovers
  • 034 Motorsport Rear ARB
  • ATS Racelight, 19x8.5j ET35, wheels in Satin Black
I shall report back with prinout/60ft if the owner sends it.
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No need. 11.06 on a Golf is possible under good conditions. That's not 10.66 though. To drop that much you need much more.
 
Diddums said:
When people start talking about stages in car tuning you know they more often than not haven't a clue what they're talking about.

There are actual stages but there's a hell of a lot more to it than walking in to a dealer and going "I want stage 3 please".

Stage 1 is about the only one which can be generalised as it usually means the car's breathing has been improved, usually a filter and a pipe. Even that however can vary rather dramatically.
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Very true if you are talking about cars in general (I get confused by Stage 5 etc. GT-Rs as I did not research them extensively)

On the MQB cars though it is established by most tuners that:

1. Stage 1 - Map and filter. Maybe different intake hose and other small things
2. Stage 2 - Add downpipe, maybe sports catalyst and/or full exhaust . Maybe DSG map
3. Stage 3 - Hybrid turbo and everything else that may be needed for up to 600hp
4. Stage 4 - Additional injectors/rails (needed for over 590-600hp) , bigger turbo (usually not a hybrid but could be as the TT v6) etc.

Things do change daily but those are the approximate guidelines for MQB cars.
 
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