*** Sky TV Cancellation & Negotiation Thread ***

superleeds27 said:
Been offered the following:
Sky Sports complete
entertainment
HD
kids
box sets
Netflix premium
Sky Q Experience
£60
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Did that include cinema ? since, then sounds consistant with the £48/49 others discussed ?
- can the Netflix be turned on and off

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Badfish said:
I dont get why people ... 50-90 quid a month to get TV channels full of adverts
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if you want sports, like my folks do, no other options, pay per view rugby matches would probably be their choice.
but, anyway, netflix is streaminglive and they can can download sky/them to skip adverts, which aren't on Nowtv, I use, either.
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It's pretty much sports for me yeah. There are obviously underhand ways of watching it but I'm quite picky about quality, reliability etc would be good if someone could wrestle the football away from sky/bt and totally change how we watch and pay for it but that might be some way off.
 
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Badfish said:
I dont get why people (specially IT literate people) are paying 50-90 quid a month to get TV channels full of adverts and not even get the latest episodes/season of series when they come out... If it was advert free then maybe its worth it, but its not.

Just get Netflix subscription, and stream or download other stuff, it will save you a bundle of money and you have no stupid adverts every 10-15 minutes!
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That would be piracy which isn't legal then?

Would you risk your job to save £50 a month?

Also I want to watch them in the best possible quality. Not a compressed file at 720p.

Also I can record them and simply skip the adverts. To a lot of people £50 a month isn't a lot of money. I spend more than that on fuel for instance in a week.

Also by paying for it legally I support the people who make it so they can make better stuff in future. If everyone did what you do there would be nothing to watch. Then you would be complaining that there isn't anything worth pirating.

Also for sports good luck getting a high quality reliable stream.

I have spent tens of thousands of pounds on TV's, Speakers, Amplifiers, Soundbars, etc. The last thing I want to be doing is constantly searching for a live stream with buffering and audio issues and missing out on important live action.

Basically streaming is crap. It's also nowhere near UHD quality or reliable. You get what you pay for.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
That would be piracy which isn't legal then?

Would you risk your job to save £50 a month?

Also I want to watch them in the best possible quality. Not a compressed file at 720p.

Also I can record them and simply skip the adverts. To a lot of people £50 a month isn't a lot of money. I spend more than that on fuel for instance in a week.

Also by paying for it legally I support the people who make it so they can make better stuff in future. If everyone did what you do there would be nothing to watch. Then you would be complaining that there isn't anything worth pirating.

Also for sports good luck getting a high quality reliable stream.

I have spent tens of thousands of pounds on TV's, Speakers, Amplifiers, Soundbars, etc. The last thing I want to be doing is constantly searching for a live stream with buffering and audio issues and missing out on important live action.

Basically streaming is crap. It's also nowhere near UHD quality or reliable. You get what you pay for.
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Nice to read and really unfortunate that more people don't think the same way.
I reached a point in my life where I just grew up and put all forms of stealing behind me.
Fast forward to my life as an adult and when I'm looking for the best TV deals it involves me looking at the legal routes - I have a SkyQ, Netflix and Prime subscription on the go - I can tailor those to suit my needs, but as watching any content outside of those platforms will include illegal feeds - they are not something for me to consider.

A month or so back it was time to upgrade from my old SkyHD system - SkyQ and Virgin Media were the only options I considered.

Is it expensive? Well I can afford it, it's not as if I'd put myself into debt for TV content. Could I do with not paying it each month?
Sure, who couldn't do with extra cash in their pocket.
But I consume the content so I should pay for the content - a simple deal I have with those companies.
 
stoofa said:
Nice to read and really unfortunate that more people don't think the same way.
I reached a point in my life where I just grew up and put all forms of stealing behind me.
Fast forward to my life as an adult and when I'm looking for the best TV deals it involves me looking at the legal routes - I have a SkyQ, Netflix and Prime subscription on the go - I can tailor those to suit my needs, but as watching any content outside of those platforms will include illegal feeds - they are not something for me to consider.

A month or so back it was time to upgrade from my old SkyHD system - SkyQ and Virgin Media were the only options I considered.

Is it expensive? Well I can afford it, it's not as if I'd put myself into debt for TV content. Could I do with not paying it each month?
Sure, who couldn't do with extra cash in their pocket.
But I consume the content so I should pay for the content - a simple deal I have with those companies.
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exactly.

i could make my own vodka and save £50 a month but i'd rather not risk becoming blind.

also i'd love to be a guest at his house when he says come over and watch the footy at mine. he then spends 30 mins of the 90 trying to find a working stream. when he does it looks like minecraft. i'd be like thanks but no thanks, I didn't realise you were a gypo.

a guy at work his son's pals were coming round for a PPV event on UFC so he had to pay for the channel for a month. he didn't even consider finding an illegal stream which he might do for the odd football game because if it were to cut off halfway his son's pals would likely ridicule him for years to come. so i think he simply subscribed to bt sports for that month then cancelled it.
 
Do you think it's fair sky charge some £100+ a month and new customers/retentions £30 for the same package ?
Mine went up from £38 for the lot on sky to £98. So I downgraded. The likes of sky hardly play fair themselves .
And who has ever lost there job watching a stream by the way ?
Rest of the post I agree with.
 
ants83 said:
Do you think it's fair sky charge some £100+ a month and new customers/retentions £30 for the same package ?
Mine went up from £38 for the lot on sky to £98. So I downgraded. The likes of sky hardly play fair themselves .
And who has ever lost there job watching a stream by the way ?
Rest of the post I agree with.
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Loads of companies do this though? Insurance companies do it every year as do utility companies. Why don't they get ridiculed for overcharging existing customers for what are necessities in some cases compared to Sky which, let's face it, is a luxury?
 
With respect to energy pricing and folks who are stuck on the standard tarifs, as opposed to preferential tarifs, the govenrment has adressed that,
so maybe they should do the same for subscription services like sky , netflix/aamzon have clear pricing structure, not sure about BT ...
but I hate to see older relatives forking out money, because they are not able to negotiate with Sky - theres an immoraility too it.

Is there the same issue in the USA. ?
 
jpaul said:
With respect to energy pricing and folks who are stuck on the standard tarifs, as opposed to preferential tarifs, the govenrment has adressed that,
so maybe they should do the same for subscription services like sky , netflix/aamzon have clear pricing structure, not sure about BT ...
but I hate to see older relatives forking out money, because they are not able to negotiate with Sky - theres an immoraility too it.

Is there the same issue in the USA. ?
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Having quite a few US friends they have the same issues. In areas where there's a single high speed broadband option the prices are far higher than in areas where there's a choice. In some areas where Google Fibre has been rolled out prices have dropped by as much as half. Companies routinely sign customers up on introductory offers and then gouge the life out of them knowing many won't change or try to take advantage in the short time they stay before taking their business elsewhere.
 
To be fair the only reason energy companies have had to drop tariffs is because the Government and Ofgen have got involved. At that was because more and more and more people started complaining, so it became an issue that needed looking at.

There will be a day, and I hope it is soon, where more people start complaining about service providers and unfair pricing structures, then something will be done, it has happened with mobile phone pricing, so why not TV services.

While the vast majority of Sky, Virgin, BT etc customers are very happy to get a service for a price, and are happy to carry on paying that for 10 years, then what is making the companies want to do anything about pricing ?

They are in it to make a profit, and the more people who just pay, the higher that profit, so no reason to play fair.
 
It's unclear if there is any similar ground-swell against sky pricing, tv-packages are in the rpi shopping basket, so like mobile phone contracts appear to be a standard requirement.

But maybe the market will self-regulate, with Amazon buying into sport (not sure netflix have tried yet), and, if the footall clubs want to keep the game and gate-levels breathing, they need to ensure their product is available at reasonable prices, distributing the contracts more between different providers, as opposed to somewhat granting monopolies. they/clubs seem like turkeys voting for xmas.

Sky making a big advertising furore about netflix, above less profitable activities like HDR or streaming-only service, shows they are concerned about their appeal.

A dedicated OC thread for deals people have got, presenting them in a clear way would even contribute to more public knowledge on reductions available,
since currently it is divide and conquor with respect to reduction/negotiation outcome (OC the next un-biassed MSE ?)
 
I've just pulled the plug on Virgin as our introductory deal ran out and they weren't willing to budge. I don't suppose theres any Sky new customer sign up deals nocking around by any chance?
 
Badfish said:
Sadly I dont check here much. Clearly you didnt read it properly. Since when is paying for Netflix piracy and not supporting the people who make TV content? And where you get this idea of 720p content from? You can get 4k streaming nowdays...

My main complaint about Sky was the cost of it considering you get spammed with adverts every 10-15 minutes and not even getting the latest shows a lot of the time. You are paying 50 pounds a month but many people seem to be paying far more than this to watch often older shows/episode and get adverts. Yes you can record and fast forward through ads, but considering you are paying for it why should you have to do this anyways? Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc has much of the same content and usually even more upto date things, completely on demand and so no recording needed, there's no ads, and they are way cheaper than Sky. Whilst I agree 50 pound a month isnt much money, I'd still rather pay less for a better service.

As for sport, I agree, streaming them isnt great and for me its the only part of Sky worth paying for due to a lack of good alternatives.
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i'll quote you again

Badfish said:
I dont get why people (specially IT literate people) are paying 50-90 quid a month to get TV channels full of adverts and not even get the latest episodes/season of series when they come out... If it was advert free then maybe its worth it, but its not.

Just get Netflix subscription, and stream or download other stuff, it will save you a bundle of money and you have no stupid adverts every 10-15 minutes!
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how do you get the latest episodes of a series when they come out legally in the UK if not through sky?

when they have exclusivity over game of thrones, etc?

you also say "stream or download other stuff". what is this other stuff you speak of? it's clearly not a legal service like netflix or prime, etc.

come on you know what you said in between the lines. if not then i suggest you make your posts much clearer in future.

also i'm paying around £50 a month for sky in that i get my netflix sub - worth £10

i get UHD content

i get all the latest movies some in UHD - worth £10 a month minimum on it's own.

i get sky in 2 rooms - worth an additional £12 a month

i get all the sports channels - worth £15+ a month

which when you break it down. i'm paying less than £10 for sky itself per month. which is well worth it.

how else would i watch live sports without a sky sub that is legal?
 
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