I'm trying to find other like minded people who don't get what all the hype is about.
That might be true if you actually enjoyed RPG games. You clearly don't. It's just like Robbo's fifa example. Utterly pointless thread.
I'm trying to find other like minded people who don't get what all the hype is about.
I'm not here to wind people up, like I said, I'm trying to find other like minded people who don't get what all the hype is about. Like I said, nobody is forcing you to be in this thread, if you don't like what is being said, leave.
Because I feel like I'm missing out on something that looks fairly huge, I'm sure I've said that already
Because I feel like I'm missing out on something that looks fairly huge, I'm sure I've said that already
That might be true if you actually enjoyed RPG games. You clearly don't. It's just like Robbo's fifa example. Utterly pointless thread.
I think the OP's main feeling is that, admitting an entertaining movie or an engrossing book are far better at the 'storytelling' narrative function of art/entertainment, why play Skyrim? Most supporters of the game (and the RPG genre, for that matter) say that the storyline is fantastic-- but really, in terms compared to other mediums, video-game storytelling and writing is still horrifically infantile and poorly developed. Indeed, a fantasy novel would provide a much better story in an infinitely richer, more developed and textured medium. Perhaps you are all just too lazy to read? Perhaps the supposedly attention-deficit 'modern warfare 3 fragger' just admits that games aren't the ideal platform for storytelling delivery, and so seeks it in more suitable forms that you, the RPG player, aren't willing to pursue?
I think games still have a long way to catch-up with other artforms (if games are even to be considered art, which has representation or narrative as a shared basic function) when it comes to storytelling. Taking that as a given, I therefore expect something else to make games stand-out and desirable over the armchair and a fantasy paperback: this is where the social aspect comes in, or perhaps the engaging combat/gameplay itself. Everyone seems to be admitting from point-one that Skyrim is completely individual and asocial, and that the combat 'isn't the point'. Well if the point is the story, why play Skyrim instead of read a book? I think, possibly, that is what the OP is getting at.
I think the OP's main feeling is that, admitting an entertaining movie or an engrossing book are far better at the 'storytelling' narrative function of art/entertainment, why play Skyrim? Most supporters of the game (and the RPG genre, for that matter) say that the storyline is fantastic-- but really, in terms compared to other mediums, video-game storytelling and writing is still horrifically infantile and poorly developed. Indeed, a fantasy novel would provide a much better story in an infinitely richer, more developed and textured medium. Perhaps you are all just too lazy to read? Perhaps the supposedly attention-deficit 'modern warfare 3 fragger' just admits that games aren't the ideal platform for storytelling delivery, and so seeks it in more suitable forms that you, the RPG player, aren't willing to pursue?
I think games still have a long way to catch-up with other artforms (if games are even to be considered art, which has representation or narrative as a shared basic function) when it comes to storytelling. Taking that as a given, I therefore expect something else to make games stand-out and desirable over the armchair and a fantasy paperback: this is where the social aspect comes in, or perhaps the engaging combat/gameplay itself. Everyone seems to be admitting from point-one that Skyrim is completely individual and asocial, and that the combat 'isn't the point'. Well if the point is the story, why play Skyrim instead of read a book? I think, possibly, that is what the OP is getting at.
So is Skyrim just roleplaying fantasy spoonfed to the terminally lazy? There is certainly something half-arsed about the game's voice acting delivery...
You can never ever beat a book. I am not to sure what you are trying to get at, are you saying never play any computer games apart from FPS? Because you can never enjoy a computer game story ever so every game we play should involve a gun and some frags?
Doesn't it take over 300 hours to complete the game though, is that healthy?
enough kids died playing World of Warcraft and that other game (name escapes me)
I want to like it though, I feel like a proper black sheep because everyone
seems obsessed by Skyrim, and I just don't get why?
take World of Warcraft for example, there is no way of finishing the game, you just do more and more quests and level up more and more, there is no "once you kill this guy, you win and unlock this" aspect to the game, maybe its because I've grown up playing games like that, that I just don't get it
Why are all you guys hooked on the idea that a gaming discussion forum should just be a list of 'official fan' threads and rapturous applause? Why is it that anyone that doesn't 'get' it is immediately excommunicated? This is your chance to induct someone that is clearly eager to be bitten by the RPG bug into your world of wonder and amazement. Instead all you can do is tell him he's 'not made of the right stuff', as if he's mentally retarded or somehow too slow, or tell him that his thread is fundamentally flawed because it isn't one of the other hundred 'omg! game rules! please post your agreement here!' discussions. Lame.
I scoffedPerhaps you are all just too lazy to read?
Why are all you guys hooked on the idea that a gaming discussion forum should just be a list of 'official fan' threads and rapturous applause? Why is it that anyone that doesn't 'get' it immediately excommunicated? This is your chance to induct someone that is clearly eager to be bitten by the RPG bug into your world of wonder and amazement. Instead all you can do is tell him he's 'not made of the right stuff', as if he's mentally retarded or somehow too slow, or tell him that his thread is fundamentally flawed because it isn't one of the other hundred 'omg! game rules! please post your agreement here!' discussions. Lame.
Why is it that anyone that doesn't 'get' it is immediately excommunicated?
Game's operate on very basic reward-pathway psychology. BF3, WoW... FPS, MMO... each genre has its different methodologies and designs to deliver this satisfaction that we call 'entertainment'. The OP's point is that if RPG games are merely graphically-dressed stories, and these stories are inferior to other forms of story, why sit and play it? The sense of reward and satisfaction you get from finishing a book will trump the satisfaction you get from playing a hollow, cliché ridden piece of videogame porn.
I just think that playing a game like Skyrim or WoW, you get satisfaction from completing quests/leveling up etc... would it not be better to go rock climbing or cycling and get satisfaction from that instead. The satisfaction from building something yourself e.g. a computer is a lot more self-gratifying that just going into a shop and buying one isn't it?
I just think that playing a game like Skyrim or WoW, you get satisfaction from completing quests/leveling up etc... would it not be better to go rock climbing or cycling and get satisfaction from that instead. The satisfaction from building something yourself e.g. a computer is a lot more self-gratifying that just going into a shop and buying one isn't it?
surely you could be saying that about any game? Either way it is madness
Rubbish. If he made a thread detailing RPGs he enjoyed, why he enjoyed them and what he doesn't get about skyrim then that's an interesting discussion. This is just someone that doesn't like RPGs asking why a good RPG is popular. Because people that enjoy RPGs find skyrim to be a good RPG?