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Snapdragon X Elite Reviews

Mesai said:
Oh I have zero expectation that they'll actually improve it, which will mean no investment from software companies i.e. supporting ARM builds, and it'll likely die.

When I say "first" I mean, not absolute unusable garbage. The previous Snapdragon chips could barely run a calculator.
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That was Microsoft in full control. Ie with every advantage.
 
Scramz said:
Rosetta's performance at launch on some apps was terrible. It took them time to iron it out. Why do people give them a pass but not MS.
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People did give Microsoft time to iron the issues and they didn't. We've had Windows for ARM for literally years and years (Windows RT in 2012 and then Windows 10 ARM in 2017), and while things have got better, nowhere near at the speed that Apple delivered after they released M1 macs. People wouldn't have given Apple a pass after 7-12 years either.
 
That will hurt both companies if that comes to pass but ARM will likely recover in the medium term as companies switch to getting ARM chips from other vendors such as Mediatek or Samsung leaving Qualcomm in a bit of a pickle.

Long term though I think this could accelerate ARM alternatives such as RISC V as companies seek to de-risk from the possibility of having their ARM licence revoked regardless of how this spat gets resolved.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
I'm struggling to see how this can be a positive for Arm. Isn't this type of behaviour exactly why people didn't want Nvidia buying them?

Would love to see it go to trial.
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It's a balancing act for ARM they must protect there I.P and enforce their licensing rules but at the same time they don't want to appear to be over Draconian in the way they do it.
 
Grim5 said:
Regardless of how it's handled, I think arm is legally right here.
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Mostly because they got to write the contract as they wanted.

Since the fees would be the same if Nuvia or Qualcomm sold those chips then I can only assume someone at ARM is worried about the lower royalties for architectural Vs Qualcomm using ARM's reference designs. That Qualcomm is flying the ARM flag in new waters and markets doesn't seem to matter to ARM.

Wonder if they want no new architectural licences anyhow?

I guess it is too late for Qualcomm to now claim that everything was developed after they bought Nuvia, but since both had an architectural licence how could ARM prove otherwise?

Anyhow, others will be watching and this will all do ARM no long-term good, but will be good for RISC-V etc.
 
shame they canned those mini pcs, really wanted to try one out but hopefully they get the engineering side right with thier next platform since arm mini pcs could really take off for both media players and mini pcs market.
 
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