So I’m sat in Sainsbury’s car park…

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keef247 said:
I couldn't give a **** what sales figures say, they're all financed by people that haven't got a clue about cars and copycat other people for a 'safe bet' styling wise to 'fit in' with what their neighbours have etc etc. If someone actually buys one outright, they're just as dumb. Half of the time those figures are bogus anyway and engineered for marketing to sell the cars.

Like these mind numbing ******** that buy 'crossovers', stupid lifted hatchbacks which serve ZERO purpose over a hatchback and gain nothing... Hello Vauxhall Mokka drivers...

It's just being pushed as the new estate now and people are falling for it.

TBF a saloon tends to have a bit better head/leg room in the back and big enough boots for most people, but I do love how a hatchback is basically like having a van if you have something where the seats can go flat, you can fit stupid amounts of stuff in them!

Yeah fast wagons FTW mate. I'm coupe guy by preference, but I'd def have a fast estate over a saloon, as if I was considering buying a saloon, I'd just get the coupe version - which is always undeniably better looking.
The only time I'd buy a saloon over a coupe is IF it was a saloon only car, like an older M5...

I do love how the old touring cars took boring saloons and wagons, and made them into mental race cars.
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fastwunz said:
I’ve been here about 30 mins or so. I can see to my rear left is a BMW 520i and my rear right is a Porsche Boxter.

Neither of those owners have yet come back to their cars but I have seen one lady in a red fiesta literally drive into the adjacent space (heaven forbid people should do anything as difficult as reverse park into a space), hit the Porsches front bumper, pull forward and then try again. She actually managed it this time only for her to open her door onto the Porsche and merrily wander off. I have her number plate. Oddly the bumping hasnt done any apparent damage but her door has put a nice knock in the paint of the Porsche.

The bmw has also suffered - again a woman in a Ford Kuga who also did not reverse park but because she managed to park at a 45 degree angle, she managed to give herself enough room to squeeze her large backside out of the Kuga and wonder off. Upon returning, she inexplicably didn’t use her boot to put the shopping away but purposefully pushed her door open so that it leant against the BMW so that she could lean on it for support whilst putting shopping on the passenger seat. More damage. She too has driven off now.

I despair. If the owners come back I’ll tell them I suppose
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Should shop aw Waitrose, different class of people ;)
 
Malevolence said:
I didn't see what damage was caused, but yeah I guess it would be. I let security know, and due to the nature of the location there are cameras everywhere.
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I often have to get the CCTV footage for some cases and our cameras are next to useless in most cases :(

Had one a couple of weeks ago, woman claimed she tripped up, fell onto the floor and damaged her arm, hip and leg.
CCTV did show a stumble but not a falling over, my colleague went to look at the exact place on the CCTV and there was nothing there that could have made her stumble.
She also did the stumble, looked around to make sure nobody saw her and then carried on as normal with zero limp.
She'll probably still get a payout though.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
She'll probably still get a payout though.
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A payout in hot lead?

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keef247 said:
The funniest thing, is that all the people that own them on here seem to think they know about cars/are enthusiasts yet pay someone else to do everything:cry: even an oil change :rolleyes: But talk like they could restore/maintain a classic and think they have 'taste' with their finance lol.
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I think you should name names of these people on here, get a bit of Christmas drama going
 
tonys said:
I've got a Mokka because it's just the right height to get into for me when I have knee and hip pain, can't get in and out of low cars now.
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That's fair enough Tony in your circumstance.
It might be worth you trying out something like an Audi All Road (or whatever they call it) or a Subaru Forester/Volvo Cross Country, when you're done with the Mokka, it might fit that bill? Being that they're raised/off roady, from factory?

If not fair enough, as a minority, that's totally understandable. But people that buy them thinking they're superior to a normal car/have more storage than an estate, are dreaming.

Considering the size of modern hatchbacks and cars in general, let alone the wheel base, unless it's sporty, most cars are high enough due to massive wheels/brakes they all come with, to stop the weight they now are due to crash structure zones etc etc, so as long as it's not a sporty model, something like the aforementioned, is worth a shot if you haven't tried them before.
I have to ask though, does getting out of it not become a pain, literally being higher than a 'normal' car?

My point was more geared to the fact these type of cars are driven by everyone, and they serve in general no more benefit than an estate/saloon/hatchback, and literally feature nothing the others don't. So it becomes a silly style choice at that point. Which is crazy considering the size/width of our parking spaces/roads/city parking/driveways etc etc... We used to as a nation mock 'obese Americans and their stupid big cars" etc etc... Seems a bit ironic to me. It's fine over there with the size of their roads/landscapes/parking structures, but that can't be said over here, especially not in rural areas...

The idea of driving a fake 4x4 seems ridiculous to me. I'd take an estate over than in every aspect, for the general population (so no dig at you and your situation/circumstance, that's fair enough but a minority) and I'm as I say by preference a coupe guy, but I totally would have/recommend an estate based on requirements, so I'm not biased in that aspect, I get people need to lug family/things about in masses. Just 90% the ones I see are driven by 1 person on their own, who can't drive/park it to save their lives, and do things like the OP mentioned.

I also think it's crazy that old people are now driving stuff like this, when they struggle to park a Jazz... Add driving an automatic to that equation, and you have an accident/fatality waiting to happen.
 
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keef247 said:
I have to ask though, does getting out of it not become a pain, literally being higher than a "normal" car.

I also think it's crazy that old people are now driving stuff like this, when they struggle to park a Jazz... Add driving an automatic to that equation, and you have an accident/fatality waiting to happen.
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I'm quite comfortable getting in and out as I don't have to strain either hip or knee joints. The same doesn't apply to a normal car I fall into them an climb out of them. Also I'm old as well.

Yes I do agree a lot of these cars are excessive and most cars are driven with just one occupant.
 
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tonys said:
I'm quite comfortable getting in and out as I don't have to strain either hip or knee joints. The same doesn't apply to a normal car I fall into them an climb out of them. Also I'm old as well.
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That's fair enough.
Have you tried the aforementioned higher version estates above? Might be worth considering in the future. Way better made/reliable too.
 
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tonys said:
Can't afford a new car, I bought this outright and hope it lasts until I have to give up my licence.
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Well if it suits your needs/ticks the boxes, that's completely fair enough mate, there was no offense intended, as I say you're not in the majority of the owners I mention :)

For what it's worth, get it serviced every 4-5k miles, not the stupid book figure (whatever they're conning people with these days!) having worked extensively in the trade, I'll tell you right now that is a scam to get your car to fail sooner/charge you for work/trade it in for sweet F all and con you into something else you can't afford, then you leave and it goes straight back on the forecourt fixed the same day.

I swear the way manuals/service intervals are 'marketed' these days, you'd think the paper in the oil filter etc is made out of magic, it's obviously not, nor is the oil... A friend had a Vauxhall, and they were quoting something stupid like 15-20k per oil change in the manual! Insane!

All the best bud.
 
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...Oh what a lark.
Watching driver fails.
Parking like snails.
Opening doors wide
Hitting cars on each side.
Creating dents and paint chips.
As they swing by their hips.
From sitting to standing.
And I'm just grandstanding.

Goodnight and merry Christmas to all.
 
Couldn't be bothered to type it out earlier but I'd actually parked up at the shops, saw this thread on my phone while waiting for someone, got out my car and the one parked in the next bay over behind me, who'd almost certainly use the empty bay beside me to take a shortcut out of the car park, had a nice scrape all up the side of the front bumper :( so I was like "well ****". Car park was too busy to bother moving though really with everyone doing last minute Christmas shopping.
 
Doughnut007 said:
This is exactly why I would never again buy a new car.
You can't even park at the back because if you do some moron will still park next to you even though there are plenty of spaces.
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This. I drive an old banger, It's got its fair share of supermarket car park dents & scratches over the years. I used to car about my car's outer condition but not any more. If some other people don't care why should I? If I had a reason for concern it would be rust starting due to metal being exposed after a dent or a scratch.
 
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