So I’m sat in Sainsbury’s car park…

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This is why I strategically time when I go shopping for quiet periods. If i go away on a work trip like last month where I went to Glasgow, i use a parking App & stop someplace more secure like someones driveway or get the train.

It's been 7+ years since I picked up a door ding.
 
keef247 said:
Hell on earth that! :cry: Least you're a good sport though :)
Parking on the pavements like that, is a proper dick move though.
I do see a Range Rover though, least that's a real off roader, not that the owner will even dare to take it down a green lane though haha!

I'll stick to playing with the classics :)
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You’re converting those to electric right …… :p
 
This is one the of main reason why i drive an old car, it was spotless when I bought it, now n/s frt wing big crease down it where a door hit it rear bumper pushed in paint damage, same on the front but worse,no/s frt door damge, n/s rear door and wing damage, and the worse thing it's still worth more than I paid for i
 
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Grimley said:
This. I drive an old banger,
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Same, I practiced bangernomics for my entire driving life with the exception of my last car that I inherited from my dad, a 2019 Focus Titanium X in white. Some were slightly modified under the skin, but on the outside just bashed and dinged to high heaven.
 
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there is a lot to be said for a car you are not too precious over .. I went from cars i really looked after to generic practical family cars that whilst I still kept looking ok I didn't stress over.

I recently went back to having a nice car and I had forgotten the huge downside of it.

that said the attitude shown by some that just because they themselves don't care about their vehicle or that they personally think someone else's car is rubbish therefore not an issue is exactly the rotten attitude that so many have and it's a problem.

regardless of whether I have a banger I don't care about or a cherished car , I still respect other people's property, regardless of if it is a Ferrari, a range rover or a 20 year old banger.
if a person is incapable of parking in a designated space and getting in and out of their car without touching mine they should not be parking next to me.
and the same is true of me. if a car is parked within a proper space then it is my problem if I can't park without being able to open my doors safely not theirs and if that means ignoring a space I do.
 
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I'd never bump anyone else's car, but then I'm not that precious over mine and I consider the odd ding to be a part of living in London. It's a 5 year old Mini though, if it was something special I'd probably have a very different outlook.

Anyone touching my bike will have their fingers cut off though.
 
SDK^ said:
Electric Classic cars : https://www.electricclassiccars.co.uk/

This Testarossa is nice :)
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Not sure if you know, but It's a 348 not a 512TR in my photo.
No way in hell will I give an electric engine swap a pass over a flat plane crank v8/v12, the throttle response/noise is half of why it's awesome. That'd be like cutting the ****/ass/legs/face off a model!
It'd be blasphemy to add stupid amounts of weight and ruin the weight distro/handling ontop of deleting the glorious noise it makes with the sports exhaust.

And def won't be removing the v8 considering it's done 38k genuine miles with full Ferrari history in the hand stitched leather history/manual satchel thing it comes with.

Oh and the legendary gated shifter is something you really have to witness for yourself. Not giving that up!

As for the 512TR, here's a proper one, driven properly:

However if money was no object... It'd be this:
 
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Iamzod said:
It's been 7+ years since I picked up a door ding.
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In all my years of motoring, I’ve never had a door ding. I do tend to park a distance away from other cars if I can but if the car park is busy and I’m in a hurry, I just find a space and don’t worry about it.

My main concern when parking is not to park under trees.

But getting a ding in a car park, or when parked on the road? No, never, not in over 40 years of driving and many, many hundreds of thousands of miles.
 
mid_gen said:
Debt for a depreciating asset like a car is a mug's game chap!

Cost of doing business. Someone dinged my motor in the car park last year, *shrug*. It happens when you park in a public place, the world is full of incompetents. No use getting ****** off about it.
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I don't own any cars that depreciate, chap.

I've never made a loss on any car I've broken up for bits/sold as a whole. I always have rare spec stuff/desirable models, then restore/modify/restore to a desirable options list, either in all OEM nut and bolt restoration, or with better aftermarket/track spec parts.

The last classic I dailyed that I sold, was sold in 14 minutes of being online, 45 mins later I was paid in full by an American living in Germany, 2 days later it was picked up on a truck/trailer, 2 days later it was in Germany :) People that know, know what stuff are worth/rarity. I don't own/build/restore anything boring/lifeless/common.

I take a photo of every single thing I replace/restore/fit, so when you sell a car with literally thousands of pics/receipts/history, it goes for what you want. As there's no BS at that point, it literally IS what you say it is. Especially since COVID. Stuff is worth STUPID money now!

I like how everyone cracked on with their restorations/projects during covid, and achieved something, and now get to enjoy them :)

The thing about classics is, you can't just 'easily' find one, let alone a rot free/correct spec/colour one. Unlike buying a new car.

The joys of classic cars, they just go up in value :) A £250 E30 325i Sport coupe bought 15 years ago is now a solid £13-16k with rust now, a mint genuine low miles Alpine white 2 mtech 2 sport is worth 16-25k now, £250 E36 328i Sport coupe is now a 8K with rust 12K mint car on low mileage, a mint 3L E36 M3 coupe 18-26k, the list is endless...

So don't worry I'm not loosing nothing ;)

Me and my mates do nut and bolt restorations on a rotisserie and protect everything afterwards then warm garage stored, never driven on road salt/rain. Anyone can buy/finance something with no soul/uniqueness about it, and then have zero care/attachment towards it, but I much prefer maintaining/restoring classics that can't 'just' be replaced 'just like that' from a showroom.

I also much prefer a car that can fit in any parking space/driveway/road and has character/hydraulic steering/light weight/60's-90's styling and is all down to my inputs to keep it on the road/show it's ability.

My mate for example built a 5L S62B50 E39 M5 engine swapped E30 coupe, that power to weight is like 400bhp+ per tonne, and will slay anything, nothing fits, it's all custom fabrication, the satisfaction of going out/driving a car like that, is literally something money cannot buy, only hard work/fabrication/thinking outside the box yourself to 'make' it happen. That's a 1 of 1 car at that point, priceless to it's owner, you can't beat that kind of experience. I think of the 67 cars he currently has (we break them for parts/restore/modify/build track or drift spec comp stuff), that's in his top 5.

I've driven/delivered many brand new cars, mainly exotics, amongst the various things I do in the trade, and none have any of the soul/feedback/handling of the old school, let alone the weight. It's all just obese fridges these days with electric everything, assistance you can't fully turn off, fake piped in sounds, numb handling, and basically smoke and mirrors.

I had a 2016 RS7 for a bit, 554bhp twin turbo 4L V8, great for dick waving on the autobahn in a straight line, but do 150 in it and other than the torque getting you there in a respectable for it's weight class time, it's numb, drive it down normal roads, it's like getting a lorry through tight bends, forget parking it anywhere... Pointless.

Delivered 2 2020 Bentley Mulsanne's, 6.5M long, a real land yacht, barely fits on any road, didn't fit in my drive width wise when I had it for the night, pointless, and it's just an Audi in a posh dress, and it feels like it, just like a modern lambo is just an R8 in a dress, they never feel like real lambos that try to kill you at any opportunity, which command respect/skill to drive.

The only modern car that feels half faithful to the originals, is the modern Rolls Royce's, at least BMW have done their best their vs Bentley, you do genuinely feel like you're in a RR in all aspects, the Bentley, you always know it's lying to you with visuals, and the smoothness of the engine/drive just isn't there compared to a RR.

TLDR modern cars vs classics, is like saying fake boobs are better than real ones! Anyone that disagrees has never driven a proper car in it's prime, witnessed it in motorsport. That analogue "it's all on you" and feedback/nimble light weight/lack of stabilizers paired with proper beauty in terms of design/looks vs 'drawn for safety' is unbeatable.

FWIW this isn't a 'rant' I'm just very passionate about anything I care about/work hard for, just thought it was shed better light on my opinion/experience vs being a vague playground shouting match...

I'm pretty sure anyone growing up with bikes/go karts/motorbikes and fixing them, will get this. Fixing anything/maintaining it yourself/modifying it to improve it, forms such a bond between you and a car/bike, and mutual respect as it can literally kill you if done wrong/driven wrong, they have a personality about them, which buying off the shelf, simply does not give you - the same as building a custom pc vs buying it from a shop, that satisfaction is unrivaled, as is saving thousands in labour and teaching yourself something new, I don't think that's a bad thing.

There's nothing better than tuning/adjusting the way a car handles/behaves etc etc be it engine/suspension/alignment etc etc to suit your needs, then driving it and feeling like you and the car are working as a team to both of your limits, as with riding MTB/bmx/skateboarding etc etc or anything you maintain yourself. You get a real visceral experience from it. And you've achieved it yourself.

You meet so many like minded people, get to go on treasure hunts to track down rare vintage parts, see areas of the country you've never been before, all because you're part of a hobby/career you love, I don't think that's a bad thing personally...
 
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Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
I love the rant, they are Schrodingers SUVs, simultaneously massive and yet no larger inside, opposite to the tardis I guess.

I know loads of people who have switched from hatches to SUVs. Generally an SUV is a hatch on steroids in effect. The benefits of a hatch are just the same, but the majority who specifically select them do so based on ease of use, someone mentioned ease of access. 100% when my grandad had s dodgy hip the only car he could get in and out of was the Cmax I happened to have briefly from work. Was a godsend. 5 series etc were a nightmare getting him out of. Just too low.
Fitting child seats and getting kids in and out of an SUV is multitudes easier than a "normal car"

There is also a visibility benefit of the SUVs, my other half moving from a X1 to a 330E hates the lack of visibility now.
I must admit I used to find the same when I would get out of her X1 and into my TT, you feel blind by comparison.

Really its just the same as its always been with cars . Some people don't like evolution, some just go with the evolution.

Estates never, like really never, were wanted by the majority of the population. They almost all looked ***** in comparison to saloons. Mainly because they were saloons that some designer had to try to make look good as an estate.
Estates have their point, remote service engineers, campers, allotmentiers, painter and decorators, outside that, not really. They don't offer really anything to the majority the majority of the time.
Vans are far more accessible, and pickups now far more common its probably why the majority of manufacturers gave up on estates as the sales volume dropped so low.

Anyway back on topic.
For many people cars are just a means of transport. They don't get snowfoam, filtered water, excessive servicing above what the manufacturer says you need, and all the other stuff that car enthusiasts do.

My solution is to make car parking spaces progressively wider as they get further from the store. So the further your willing to walk the more space you get.
I still remember a large Tesco I used to use, I parked at the diagonally furthest spot from the store. I parked in the middle of two spots. When i came out I had a car parked each side of me, alongside me!
There was probably 100 spots across two completely empty rows of spaces between me and the store when I went in, and when I came out..
I swear some people use another car as a lining up tool and not the painted lines.
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They did it to wind you up. I’ve done it.
 
keef247 said:
I don't own any cars that depreciate, chap.

I've never made a loss on any car I've broken up for bits/sold as a whole. I always have rare spec stuff/desirable models, then restore/modify/restore to a desirable options list, either in all OEM nut and bolt restoration, or with better aftermarket/track spec parts.

The last classic I dailyed that I sold, was sold in 14 minutes of being online, 45 mins later I was paid in full by an American living in Germany, 2 days later it was picked up on a truck/trailer, 2 days later it was in Germany :) People that know, know what stuff are worth/rarity. I don't own/build/restore anything boring/lifeless/common.

I take a photo of every single thing I replace/restore/fit, so when you sell a car with literally thousands of pics/receipts/history, it goes for what you want. As there's no BS at that point, it literally IS what you say it is. Especially since COVID. Stuff is worth STUPID money now!

I like how everyone cracked on with their restorations/projects during covid, and achieved something, and now get to enjoy them :)

The thing about classics is, you can't just 'easily' find one, let alone a rot free/correct spec/colour one. Unlike buying a new car.

The joys of classic cars, they just go up in value :) A £250 E30 325i Sport coupe bought 15 years ago is now a solid £13-16k with rust now, a mint genuine low miles Alpine white 2 mtech 2 sport is worth 16-25k now, £250 E36 328i Sport coupe is now a 8K with rust 12K mint car on low mileage, a mint 3L E36 M3 coupe 18-26k, the list is endless...

So don't worry I'm not loosing nothing ;)

Me and my mates do nut and bolt restorations on a rotisserie and protect everything afterwards then warm garage stored, never driven on road salt/rain. Anyone can buy/finance something with no soul/uniqueness about it, and then have zero care/attachment towards it, but I much prefer maintaining/restoring classics that can't 'just' be replaced 'just like that' from a showroom.

I also much prefer a car that can fit in any parking space/driveway/road and has character/hydraulic steering/light weight/60's-90's styling and is all down to my inputs to keep it on the road/show it's ability.

My mate for example built a 5L S62B50 E39 M5 engine swapped E30 coupe, that power to weight is like 400bhp+ per tonne, and will slay anything, nothing fits, it's all custom fabrication, the satisfaction of going out/driving a car like that, is literally something money cannot buy, only hard work/fabrication/thinking outside the box yourself to 'make' it happen. That's a 1 of 1 car at that point, priceless to it's owner, you can't beat that kind of experience. I think of the 67 cars he currently has (we break them for parts/restore/modify/build track or drift spec comp stuff), that's in his top 5.

I've driven/delivered many brand new cars, mainly exotics, amongst the various things I do in the trade, and none have any of the soul/feedback/handling of the old school, let alone the weight. It's all just obese fridges these days with electric everything, assistance you can't fully turn off, fake piped in sounds, numb handling, and basically smoke and mirrors.

I had a 2016 RS7 for a bit, 554bhp twin turbo 4L V8, great for dick waving on the autobahn in a straight line, but do 150 in it and other than the torque getting you there in a respectable for it's weight class time, it's numb, drive it down normal roads, it's like getting a lorry through tight bends, forget parking it anywhere... Pointless.

Delivered 2 2020 Bentley Mulsanne's, 6.5M long, a real land yacht, barely fits on any road, didn't fit in my drive width wise when I had it for the night, pointless, and it's just an Audi in a posh dress, and it feels like it, just like a modern lambo is just an R8 in a dress, they never feel like real lambos that try to kill you at any opportunity, which command respect/skill to drive.

The only modern car that feels half faithful to the originals, is the modern Rolls Royce's, at least BMW have done their best their vs Bentley, you do genuinely feel like you're in a RR in all aspects, the Bentley, you always know it's lying to you with visuals, and the smoothness of the engine/drive just isn't there compared to a RR.

TLDR modern cars vs classics, is like saying fake boobs are better than real ones! Anyone that disagrees has never driven a proper car in it's prime, witnessed it in motorsport. That analogue "it's all on you" and feedback/nimble light weight/lack of stabilizers paired with proper beauty in terms of design/looks vs 'drawn for safety' is unbeatable.

FWIW this isn't a 'rant' I'm just very passionate about anything I care about/work hard for, just thought it was shed better light on my opinion/experience vs being a vague playground shouting match...

I'm pretty sure anyone growing up with bikes/go karts/motorbikes and fixing them, will get this. Fixing anything/maintaining it yourself/modifying it to improve it, forms such a bond between you and a car/bike, and mutual respect as it can literally kill you if done wrong/driven wrong, they have a personality about them, which buying off the shelf, simply does not give you - the same as building a custom pc vs buying it from a shop, that satisfaction is unrivaled, as is saving thousands in labour and teaching yourself something new, I don't think that's a bad thing.

There's nothing better than tuning/adjusting the way a car handles/behaves etc etc be it engine/suspension/alignment etc etc to suit your needs, then driving it and feeling like you and the car are working as a team to both of your limits, as with riding MTB/bmx/skateboarding etc etc or anything you maintain yourself. You get a real visceral experience from it. And you've achieved it yourself.

You meet so many like minded people, get to go on treasure hunts to track down rare vintage parts, see areas of the country you've never been before, all because you're part of a hobby/career you love, I don't think that's a bad thing personally...
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What?
 
LuckyBenski said:
You wrote the longest post in the history of this forum in a thread about parking. Twice.


And you... You, quoted it!
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I think it was something about boring classic cars and a career. Personally I can think of nothing more boring than spending your time on old outdated crap cars with old outdated ICE tech. There may have been something about everyone but him being a loser and SUVs suck… not sure as it was TLDR and totally boring.

Sorry but so called “classic” cars do nothing for me at all. All they show is how far we’ve come with safe well built modern cars. Give me a decent SUV over a piece of crap classic Ferrari any day.
 
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Wish OCUK had a block feature. Ignore doesn’t cut it. XenForo has the ability with a plug-in can do a complete ignore now. Threads completely disappear by said person in a two way full block.

Admins and mods must love the arguments then pow down comes the ban hammer.
 
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