So ive been screwed out of £1550! :(
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You see...i cant trust royal mail really and cant write it off yet. The last thing i would want to do is get a solicitor involved today... and pay etc and the refund to appear tomorrow morning or Monday.
All i can say is my patience is wearing thin... but i have a recording of him saying hes sent the refund. So... as i deal with Royal Mail, sending out 30+ packages a day.... i know just because its 1st class... it doesnt always get there next day.
But it should 100% be here tomorrow and if not it hasnt been sent.
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Enough. You're being taken for a mug and it's time to stop having faith in this guy. Firstly, don't listen to all the silly children telling you to take a bat down there. Fine it might all turn out OK, but if you lose your temper with him in a big way then you could end up in prison, which definitely isn't OK.
If I were you, I would start a HMCS money claim online. Make sure you claim for the full amount, not the full amount minus £300 or so. You have the proof from him that the weights were the same or higher when he received the items back, so don't back down on this.
Also claim for the time and expense you have spent dealing with this idiot.
I would put on the claim that you feel any ADR (alternative dispute resolution) would not work as the guy has constantly deceived you, making agreements to send a refund but not having any intention of doing so. The court sometimes thinks it's best to enter into a ADR and see if that works before starting court action.
https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp
Make sure to document fully on your claim, all of your attempts to recover your money by diplomatic efforts. Put down the dates and times of all your calls and contact with him. You need to demonstrate that you have taken all reasonable efforts to get this resolved, before instigating the legal processes.
Look here for advice on small businesses using the service, and a link to free legal advice for small businesses if you require it. http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/ex350_0406.pdf
He probably won't even dispute the claim, so you can obtain a judgement by default and then if necessary get the court to send the bailiffs in. Don't dilly dally though, just get on with it.
Lots more information here http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/claims/index.htm
How can you say you have no faith in Royal mail but then your certain it will be here tomorrow.
If I was sending a cheque for £1000+ id make sure it got there by using Special delivery, or at least Recorded. Get the ball rolling on getting your money back otherwise hell be telling you it will be there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday........
1st Class mail shouldnt take 3-4 days really should it?
You can't trust royal mail, yet you can trust some idiot who has been fobbing you off for a couple of months??
Grow a pair, you are already willing (for reasons unexplainable) to take a 400 quid hit, yet you are worried about solicitors costs??
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I'm gonna offer some more advice here, and I don't want you to think this is me having a go at you.
GROW A SPINE
What I think will happen is that you may get £1200 of the £1700 you've spent back and think "phew, that was a close one... I was really lucky" and then be scared to try anything risky. You may think that the solution to this problem is getting your money back when it isn't, it is the fact that you don't know how to stick up for yourself. The scammer you bought the jeans from knows this as well... perhaps you're thinking "I know how to stick up for myself, I've threatened him and I've recorded his voice down the phone..." and if that is what you're thinking you're WRONG.
Learn not to repeat this behaviour in future. Women do not like wusses.
Threats are a sign of insecurity, never threaten legal actions - just take them.
YOU shouldn't have accepted his solutions. You should have told him what you WANT, then let him qualify himself to you. If he offers you a solution, tell him what YOU want.
And don't be afraid to confront him in future, don't be afraid to go there.
If you don't change your ways now, this will happen to you again and again and before you know it you'll be a lot older than you want to be and you'll still be making excuses. Success in this situation is far wider than getting your money back.
GROW A SPINE
What I think will happen is that you may get £1200 of the £1700 you've spent back and think "phew, that was a close one... I was really lucky" and then be scared to try anything risky. You may think that the solution to this problem is getting your money back when it isn't, it is the fact that you don't know how to stick up for yourself. The scammer you bought the jeans from knows this as well... perhaps you're thinking "I know how to stick up for myself, I've threatened him and I've recorded his voice down the phone..." and if that is what you're thinking you're WRONG.
Learn not to repeat this behaviour in future. Women do not like wusses.
Threats are a sign of insecurity, never threaten legal actions - just take them.
YOU shouldn't have accepted his solutions. You should have told him what you WANT, then let him qualify himself to you. If he offers you a solution, tell him what YOU want.
And don't be afraid to confront him in future, don't be afraid to go there.
If you don't change your ways now, this will happen to you again and again and before you know it you'll be a lot older than you want to be and you'll still be making excuses. Success in this situation is far wider than getting your money back.
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1st class mail can go wrong. In this case are you really that sucked in by the hope that he has done what he says?
I would send him a letter notifying him that unless the full refund is received you will be forced to start legal action against him. This would be sent recorded. Get your solicitor to then sort it out as his is taking the pee.
I would send him a letter notifying him that unless the full refund is received you will be forced to start legal action against him. This would be sent recorded. Get your solicitor to then sort it out as his is taking the pee.
This is the bit I was confused about too :/
What I don't understand here is you've been CLEARLY taken for a mug, yet you still don't see it. You should have taken legal action long ago, even now it's not too late to do so but you're still putting it off. If the guy had any intention of refunding you why wouldn't he have done it weeks ago?
Agreed.....At least start the ball rolling and look for a decent solicitor
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LOL. Advice not taken. As i said previously its not about a backbone or spine... and your misreading.
IT IS MY FAULT! I SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH PAYPAL!
I HAVE LEARNT FROM MY MISTAKES... HE CLAIMS HE HAS PROOF OF WEIGHTS!!!!! However ... I DONT!
Therfore i have no chance of getting my full refund... I dont have the time to get that £200 back of him and have just taken this as a hit and a mistake i will learn from. But telling me to get a backbone. Ive stuck up for myself. Ive tried, even lost my temper (which isnt professional) but at the end of the day ... a lot of you are misenterpreting this predicament.
....and the whole this will happen again crap? It blatently wont because as i have said ... i shoudl have gone through PayPal... not direct.
END OF!
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FFS READ.... he has actually been away...
fair doos hes taken a while... it took me 20 days to receive the jeans... hes obviously a very laid back guy.
Chest Freezer comes to mind.
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god, some people just want to wind people up for fun. I agree i havent got the money. But... tomorrow is the latest. Then i will go see my solicitor as he has offered me a free 30mins to state my claim and he can tell me if i have enough evidence and info to settle the claim.
All i can do it is wait. I only have Thursdays and Sundays off. So i can do anything today anyway...
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where do you get that info from?
Sorry I presumed that since the guy said he hadn't received the jeans that you hadn't got a tracking number for the items and so they wouldn't be signed for. Are you saying the guy DID sign for them and you had it tracked?
I wasn't on the wind up, just pointing out that this clearly wasn't the end.
Unwind you knickers.
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