So this Pokemon Go fad thing ..............

ps3ud0 · 17 Jul 2016 at 15:12

Skeeter said:
What data does this game harvest that they wouldn't already have?

This game is built on the geolocation and photos collected from Ingress, I can't see it collecting anything else of worth?

Originally it had access to loads of things it shouldnt which made the devs release a new version just before it landed over here...

I didnt really follow it but I believe it was google accounts on Apple devices that were mainly affected.

EDIT: Found this - seems it was mislabelled permissions rather than anything nefarious.

ps3ud0 :cool:

puppetworx · 17 Jul 2016 at 15:12

They can easily charge businesses to place Pokemon at their premises and literally walk potential customers in the door.

ps3ud0 · 17 Jul 2016 at 15:15

puppetworx said:
They can easily charge businesses to place Pokemon at their premises and literally walk potential customers in the door.

Already doing that with Gamestop (McDonalds incoming) AFAIK - sponsored pokestops...

ps3ud0 :cool:

datalol-jack · 17 Jul 2016 at 15:19

Skeeter said:
What data does this game harvest that they wouldn't already have?

This game is built on the geolocation and photos collected from Ingress, I can't see it collecting anything else of worth?

User activity, purchase history, interactions with other people and various locations, preferred routes, use of social features, susceptibility to advertisement and suggestion... People click yes to any ol' privacy agreement and T&Cs, same goes for Facebook, and the result is tonnes of harvested data for someone else to use. The idea is to start simple, lower people's barriers and then monetise their activity profile. It can be as harmless or as sinister as the developer wants to make it. But that's where a lot of money is these days for free at the point of use apps and services.

unwashed potato! · 17 Jul 2016 at 15:56

i don't know why they need contacts information of my phone. maybe an upcoming feature but i'm yet to see how needing to know every phone number of every friend i have will be useful in this game

Pawnless Endgame · 17 Jul 2016 at 16:01

puppetworx said:

This reminds me of World of Warcraft where a world boss or rare mob spawns. Then half of the server flocks to it like as if it's a new iPhone launch. Then 99% of them get butthurt because they were too late and didn't get credit or loot from the kill.

Skeeter · 17 Jul 2016 at 16:01

datalol-jack said:
User activity, purchase history, interactions with other people and various locations, preferred routes, use of social features, susceptibility to advertisement and suggestion... People click yes to any ol' privacy agreement and T&Cs, same goes for Facebook, and the result is tonnes of harvested data for someone else to use. The idea is to start simple, lower people's barriers and then monetise their activity profile. It can be as harmless or as sinister as the developer wants to make it. But that's where a lot of money is these days for free at the point of use apps and services.

So nothing they don't already have if you leave GPS on and use anything from the App store?

Ingress was a proper data harvest operation as users contributed the content into the game. Pokemon Go just uses it. The photos on Pokestops are all taken from those submitted in Ingress, as well as the location of the stops themselves.

If you want to get into a tizz about Niantic harvesting data, your about 3 years late

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datalol-jack · 17 Jul 2016 at 16:07

Skeeter said:
So nothing they don't already have if you leave GPS on and use anything from the App store?

Ingress was a proper data harvest operation as users contributed the content into the game. Pokemon Go just uses it. The photos on Pokestops are all taken from those submitted in Ingress, as well as the location of the stops themselves.

If you want to get into a tizz about Niantic harvesting data, your about 3 years late .

Without seeing the source and business plan, hard to say how much further it'll ingress, if you pardon the pun.

Not particularly bothered as much as keen on seeing users being recompensed for their activity and data profile in future. Sponsorship deals and discounts is one way to do it.

Skeeter · 17 Jul 2016 at 16:13

Surely the 'compensation' is in being able to play a free game?

Em3bbs · 17 Jul 2016 at 16:16

Skeeter said:
If you want to get into a tizz about Niantic harvesting data, your about 3 years late .

It's 'you're'

tracertong · 17 Jul 2016 at 16:23

Em3bbs said:
It's 'you're'

Jesus wept. Get a life.

datalol-jack · 17 Jul 2016 at 16:24

Skeeter said:
Surely the 'compensation' is in being able to play a free game?

Not enough, unless you're a total pushover. The cost/profit ratio for that is peanuts. It's certainly not a rate you'd accept if this was put to you plainly in negotiations for your time. People should start waking up to what they are actually worth in work and leisure, really. Otherwise Gibles like me can ply their trade unimpeded for paymasters that just don't care one way or the other. Indeed, as fuzzy as Nintendo franchises make people, it's far from a hipster startup in Shoreditch -- it really doesn't need a leg up from free guinea pigs!

SexyGreyFox · 17 Jul 2016 at 17:27

They ought to jump on the Strava bandwagon by also turning it into a Keep Fit app.
"Start your hunt now" and at the end you can link with Strava etc.

datalol-jack · 17 Jul 2016 at 17:37

SexyGreyFox said:
They ought to jump on the Strava bandwagon by also turning it into a Keep Fit app.
"Start your hunt now" and at the end you can link with Strava etc.

Add crossfit, mma and parkour, and then we're talking!

V F · 17 Jul 2016 at 17:46

tracertong said:
This is just crazy , how to turn the human race into mindless zombies.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ayers-go-mad-as-rare-pokemon-appears-in-park/

d_brennen · 17 Jul 2016 at 17:52

There really needs to be an game for hunting Pokemen Go players. Scrap that, a longbow will do

lafemmefatale · 17 Jul 2016 at 17:57

I think I'm a bit too old to get the hype around this. The original Pokemon came out too late for me and I just don't have the enthusiasm nor nostalgia for the whole Pokemon ecosystem and phenomenon.

I don't care if there may be a super rare McScoutyflufflecustardlax a few miles across the city, you're not gonna make me go outside and mix with real people unless I absolutely have to. :mad:

datalol-jack · 17 Jul 2016 at 18:07

d_brennen said:
There really needs to be an game for hunting Pokemen Go players. Scrap that, a longbow will do

Hunger Games? Could work.

Pawnless Endgame · 17 Jul 2016 at 18:25

d_brennen said:
There really needs to be an game for hunting Pokemen Go players. Scrap that, a longbow will do

A crossbow is more accurate

Or your could grab a couple of trebuchets from Age of Empires II (with the +1 range 'siege engineers' upgrade) and flatten some of their Pokéstops / Pokégyms etc

datalol-jack · 17 Jul 2016 at 18:27

Pawnless Endgame said:
A crossbow is more accurate

Or your could grab a couple of trebuchets from Age of Empires II (with the +1 range 'siege engineers' upgrade) and flatten some of their Pokéstops / Pokégyms etc

Nay, one ought to construct additional pylons! :cool: