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With no competition from AMD the whole thing has stagnated. I do like my 1080Ti though and certainly don't miss a multi-GPU setup.
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might not be x86 but The switch? it shows they are still more than willing to work on consoles. Then again they basically did everything bar the joy cons including the SDK having used it.
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So basically all the companies including AMD,Tesla(they are working with AMD apparently),Google,Intel,ARM,etc who are all working on AI/deep learning chips should give up?? LOL.
Even China is putting big money into the same area,even funding more AI startups than the US now:
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/22/17039696/china-us-ai-funding-startup-comparison
Look at companies like Cambricon who have come out of nowhere,with a PCI-E chip:
https://medium.com/syncedreview/cambricon-unveils-its-first-ai-chip-for-cloud-computing-d3f7acdb4076
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1281...irin-npu-ip-build-a-big-ai-chip-and-pcie-card
Loads and loads of companies are pushing development of hardware for AI/deep learning,not that hardware for it is a new concept though.
The Switch used an existing Nvidia SOC,the Tegra X1 from 2015. Its the same SOC used in the Nvidia Shield setup box and the software stack should also be mature too. So I expect to reduce risk and costs Nintendo went with an off the shelf solution.
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I think you are right that other companies will get in on the act but AMD won't be one of them as they don't have the resources to keep up.
Oddly enough in 10 years time NVidia could have been left behind too as there are other companies that have far greater resources they could deploy.
Home entertainment in the next few decades I think will change massively and at the heart of it will be a PC like device that can be expanded to cater for what is required. This could be something the size of one of todays large smart phones that uses chips the size of todays SIM cards for the expandability of things like the CPU, GPU, AI, Memory, etc.
Windows/intel will be well and truly out of the game along with stand alone consoles.
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The Chinese companies are quietly creeping in - Huawei is apparently one of the few phone companies which designs its own SOCs,and apparently the Chinese government is investing $100 to $150 billion on indigenous CPUs,RAM manufacturing,etc. Probably we will also see more and more processing also being done out of device,as internet connections get faster and faster and latency improves.
More competition the better.
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Yeah,but also expect them to be banned from our markets due to "reasons".
Would any of these "reasons" be to do with ignoring patents...
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Nah,probably something along the lines its Chinese and they are not to be trusted.
Chinese companies like Huawei do a lot of R and D though:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/huawei-the-biggest-filer-of-patents-with-the-epo-in-2017/
Plus you don't need to go as far as China for patent shenanigans - look at Apple and Samsung duking it out with each other.
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Consoles have been heading in this direction for a while becoming an entertainment hub. There are a couple of things that could push it a lot further - but I don't see it going down an expandable path for most.
Predicting the future is fun. I have just wasted 30 minutes imagining what Microsoft and PC could be in the next 3-10 years.
There is a development route which takes us to a home PC acting as a central hub for the home.
Xbox becomes a gaming application through the PC environment. Windows is re-invented as a small server style hub allowing multiple household members to tap remotely into a home system. Internet Speeds increase further to allow cloud processing to support local processing where required.
Wireless Speakers, Sensors and Projectors become AI control points for Smart Home technology for Security, Lighting, Social and Traditional Media
Wireless VR headsets hooked into the central hub provide Media and Gaming options anywhere in the home.
Your whole house becomes RGB and your preferences match your mood and travel with you throughout the home and potentially into the world around you.
Smart Rideshare technology provides transportation linked to your schedule through an AI driven automated mass transit system.
Food is grown hydroponically in your home and provides itself fresh daily based on your interactions eradicating waste.
Waste water is recycled to irrigate the food that you are growing for yourself.
Facial recognition controls access to your home.
Mobile devices become access points to the home network for traditional screen access.
Wireless Screencasting and Peripherals provide traditional desk based access where required.
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Oh and of course we are using home based solar power and next gen battery technology to store energy alongside micro generation from wind or hydro where available to create a distributed grid network that allows local energy sharing with people using the same technology.
And once we have these almost self sustaining pods we can start firing them off to anywhere with enough Solar Energy a 3d printer and some oxygen to start colonies off world.
Technology just solved world hunger, global warming, extra terrestrial colonization and next gen gaming.
Your Welcome.
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I know it must be sad to some, but understand that the PC as a gaming platform is dying and will completely die at some point.
As others have pointed out, consoles have started use PC hardware. As the next generations of consoles get launched, they'll continue to increasingly match and eclipse the PC at Gaming.
It's doesn't matter how much more performance can be had out of top end hardware in the best PC's - developers will not waste their time coding a game for the 0.1% that can afford a high end gaming rig. They'll pour all development funds into optimizing their games to run on the popular consoles - as this is the most common hardware out there in the wild.
This year we are seeing TV's launch with Freesync, Gsync and high refresh rates. There will literally be nothing left that a PC can do better for gaming - as the console game titles are so well optimized. PC gaming will increasing become a niche which will eventually die out, leaving only a retro crown who refuse to give up their big towers.
AMD will be at the centre of all this, thanks to Ryzen and their custom graphics IP. NVIDIA will increasingly only be interested in AI/Cars etc, and will eventually be bought out by Tesla or some other company.
As others have pointed out, consoles have started use PC hardware. As the next generations of consoles get launched, they'll continue to increasingly match and eclipse the PC at Gaming.
It's doesn't matter how much more performance can be had out of top end hardware in the best PC's - developers will not waste their time coding a game for the 0.1% that can afford a high end gaming rig. They'll pour all development funds into optimizing their games to run on the popular consoles - as this is the most common hardware out there in the wild.
This year we are seeing TV's launch with Freesync, Gsync and high refresh rates. There will literally be nothing left that a PC can do better for gaming - as the console game titles are so well optimized. PC gaming will increasing become a niche which will eventually die out, leaving only a retro crown who refuse to give up their big towers.
AMD will be at the centre of all this, thanks to Ryzen and their custom graphics IP. NVIDIA will increasingly only be interested in AI/Cars etc, and will eventually be bought out by Tesla or some other company.
Funny way of saying that optimising for PC has always sucked and always will.
Consoles are a bunch of clones so there's no excuses for inefficient code.
Makes more sense to talk about how developers have to compromise their code to run on PCs. Enthusiasts then throw brute force hardware at it and some have the idea that this is a superior arrangement.
So name a console platform that has more gaming sales than the PC?
The answer is there is not any, the mistake you make is you add all consoles together but forget they are different platforms.
The only thing you are right about is gaming devs will put money into the biggest individual platforms and for now that is the PC.
Also if consoles do more and more PC type things because of hardware changes eventually they will evolve into PCs.
One thing people like in things (not just PCs) is options, expandability, futureproofing, upgradability and these things will never go away.
Almost forgot, most PCs these days don't need to use huge towers and are getting smaller all the time, I think you should eat some humble raspberry pi.
It's not a hardware issue. Manufacturers profit from locking down consoles so you cannot run unofficial code on them.
I'm sure it helps with security and anti-cheating but making sure you can't run anything but their programs means the consoles are what the manufacturers want them to be.
I think we are already well on the way to a console just being a closed box PC and I expect that to continue. Assuming they stay AMD for silicon the next gen consoles are going to be using 7nm tech, it is highly probable that they will be on Zen2 and Navi cores with mid sized solid state storage using cloud storage as a game repository.
PC will just mean a different OS and customised hardware but we will be doing the same tasks with both at home.
PC probably has more to fear from android or just plain smart TVs replacing both.
The market feels soft for Samsung/google to operate a Smart TV that offers a mobile+ gaming experience. Nintendo are already going there with pokemon amd switch.
It could easily be the unforseen disruptive tech that takes things in a new direction.
PC will just mean a different OS and customised hardware but we will be doing the same tasks with both at home.
PC probably has more to fear from android or just plain smart TVs replacing both.
The market feels soft for Samsung/google to operate a Smart TV that offers a mobile+ gaming experience. Nintendo are already going there with pokemon amd switch.
It could easily be the unforseen disruptive tech that takes things in a new direction.
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End of the day consoles can only do one thing, PC can do a ton more. Yea consoles are decent for what they do and i like the Switch but they're still not really better than a PC. They will always be limited to mid range hardware because of their form factor too.
You can't edit video on consoles, can't run emulators, can't play MP without paying.. etc etc..
Let us hope that Apple doesn't try to make another console, that would be so locked down it would be hilarious.
You can't edit video on consoles, can't run emulators, can't play MP without paying.. etc etc..
Let us hope that Apple doesn't try to make another console, that would be so locked down it would be hilarious.
Yeah. The gaming PC needs a lot of development to offer something the console can't or at least become competitive on price.
It's that not the console can't as it's a PC. Laptops and tablets can do those other things.
Laptops and Tablets are PCs lol.
PC = Personal Computer.
What is more Laptops and Tablets are only going to get better..
