Software DJ Mixer

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Hi,

Well, as of the past year I've been really into Electronic music. I've gone off rock which I loved for so many years (well not gone off but Electronic music is real feel good vibe to it which is what I like).

Ever since I've wanted to get some decks and a mixer and start from scratch as a complete beginner, I know next to nothing about mixing but I really want to dedicate it as a hobby and maybe progress from their.

so before I end up shelling out for some cheap mixing decks and the rest lol, are their any software substitutes that are relatively cheap and may offer a free trial.

any resources as well I can look at about mixing.

thanks

edit - http://www.mixxx.org/

found this site, is this good for starting off? try to find some forums or guides now to start.
 
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I have just become a bedroom DJ. Was basically just like you. Loved Metal but went back to my roots which has been electro. Think I was heavily influenced in metal by mates tbh.

Anyway...

I became tired of cracked programs and **** software such as Virtual DJ (no offence to anyone that uses it) so I spent actual money on something. I bought Traktor Scratch Pro which is the 4 deck software mixer version. The scratch version means that I can connect up vinyl turntables and use timecoded vinyl which is supplied and scratch/mix with them. There are different versions/ways to use the software though. You can also hook up CDJ decks or other digital decks. You can use midi hardware such as the VCI 100 or gear like the Kontrol X1 (google all this). OR you can just use a mouse. Which imo just does not work. I got tired of trying to use a mouse to control EQ knobs. At the moment I am using a piece of hardware from Akai to do this called the APC40 and it's designed to control Ableton. So I'm kinda doing a bodged job of it.

I also bought a couple of Technics 1210s which are sitting on my desk waiting to be used. I really have to buy a mixer and some longer cables.

I think it depends on how far you want to take this hobby. I was happy to spend the cash because I had it and I really think this is something I will enjoy once I get it set up. I have already had a quick play and found it hard but rewarding once you get it right.

http://www.djtechtools.com/ is a good site
 
It's something I've wanted to do for so long, and ever since I got into Electronica I've wanted to mix my own compilations up. but I've absolutely no idea where to look or what to get.

Currently as of the moment, I'm learning to drive so it's not the best time to shell out on something I can't afford but I want something to test out and maybe a few tutorials so I can atleast get to terms with the lingo/what knobs do what and get some advice from somewhere.
 
Maybe try that free program you linked to. To stay software side I would suggest something like Serato Itch. Serato Itch is a program that comes free with hardware such as the VCI-300. Basically the hardware is 2 job wheels which act like turntables and then in the middle is a mixer. I think this will be about £300. There are probably others like it as well.

I was just unsatisfied with other programs. They made it too gimicky and very dull. Looked fancy but really it was on auto.

It's annoying I know but I think it is something you have to put a bit of money to. But I have a feeling you might end up like me and start buying into it a lot more lol. 2 Turntables £600, Traktor Scratch Pro with Kontrol X1 £570, Midi keyboard £130, Akai APC40 £350. Think that's it... for now lol. But now I need to add a mixer which will be £1000 and I'm thinking about getting a Mac Book Pro so I can pull myself away from my pc.

Have a look at this link. I think this will be a good starting point for you. I have heard good things about the Behringer BCD3000 and that's £150.

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/DJ_Controllers?pn=1

I'm sure someone else will come along (in the day and not 4 in the morning lol) and shed a better light on how to start out. I went in a bit deep so I can't be that much use :p
 
I can't beleive I was messing about with Mixxx until 5am :D.

aye, bumping this thread a bit early on is probably better than the time I posted it ;D.
 
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Yeah I use beatport for some tracks. Manly stuff I can't find elsewhere if you get what I mean lol. I only use it though because I Got a $10 and $20 voucher with my Native Instruments gear.

Chemical records is a good site for mp3s as well plus you can listen before you buy.
 
If you want a basic idea of how the real thing is I've found Virtual DJ to be fairly close. But have you got any mates with Decks, Vinyl or CDJ? Probably best to have a play on theirs and see how you like it? Failing that you can get some cheap CD Deck, Mixer combos for £50 in the UK if you search for second hand equipment.
 
Just found a really good site for finding music samples and tracks, anyone else use this?

https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/home/detail/1/beatport#
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dont use beatport

well do use it but only for making lists of stuff you want. the site is horrendous flash and the prices are upto double of its competitors. its nearly always cheaper to buy the vinyls than by wavs on beatport :/

juno/djdownload/7digital/bleep/play.com/amazon/itunes

all better and those last 3 are getting more and more electronic stuff that would once be called 'obscure' all of the time
 
do NOT buy a BCD3000, they are rubbish, a midi controller is ok to begin with, the better hercules or VCI's are your best bet, but within a year it will be on the bay so you can get some decks, or you could just get decks first, dont need to be technics, numark make cheap direct drives that have good torque, get yourself a maya usb soundcard and a copy of virtual dj, if you want to timecode with traktor, you have to shell out more cash on the native instruments soundcard, maya is cheaper, traktor is in no way better than virtual dj, serato timecode vinyls are everywhere 15 quid each, they work with ANY software, rig decks>maya usb>pc>mixer and you have in effect a serato setup for a fraction of the price, dont be fooled by brand names
 
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Hmm can't say I agree on any of that. I don't know about BCD3000 because I have never bought a jogwheel midi controller. However they the VCI-100 is an amazing controller and comes with a built in soundcard so you get nice low latency and a headphone cue socket.

Decks are not for all. Some people don't want to beatmatch by hand and would rather worry about mixing and effects. Midi controllers will be the way forward and that's obvious as Pioneer have brought out new CDJs and so are Numark. Traktor comes with a soundcard with most of it's bundles. Traktor is and in every way better than Virtual DJ. I have never and hope to never see a DJ in a club use VDJ. Look at all the videos of DJs and Scratch DJs on Youtube and they will only be using Serato (same price as Traktor) or Traktor. Serato and Traktor Vinyl will work with some software. It will work with Mixx and XWax and other software. However Serato and Traktor would rather that you couldn't use the timecode vinyl with other software. That you can only use Serato if you own Serato approved hardware or have their soundcard. Traktor is the exception because you pay for the software were Serato is "free".

I can honestly say that with DJing brand names mean everything. Pioneer decks are the industry standard. In the US Serato is the popular choice for timecodes and in Europe it's Traktor. You only need to look at screenshots to see that Traktor and Serato have a much more friendly and easy to use interface than something like VDJ.

If you read on DJTT forums most newcomers will buy a jogwheel midi device and work their way up from there. However you may find that you are just fine with a controller and may want to spend any extra cash on some side controllers or a new soundcard. Decks take up space, cost money and you have to buy a mixer. While this can work out cheap, you don't get quality and in the end what's the point.

Oh and as for what andy said I will agree prices on wav tracks are very high. But would you say wav is going to be a noticeable improvement on a basic setup over 320kbs mp3?

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I need another desk for my other deck :(
 
Whilst I prefer mixing on CDJs, I have successfully played out using both current incarnations of Virtual DJ and Traktor (purely software mixing, no hardware controllers) and they are fine as a starting point.
 
yes Kr00ts :p

I have a Novation Zero SL MkII, Launchpad and Ableton Live 8.

Shame I have virtually given up on dj'ing now. Spend nearly all my time trying to produce.

EDIT: Forgot to say all that cost me £650 (£250 Live 8, £150 Launchpad, £199 Zero + delivery & lifetime warranty)
 
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So a Behringer BCD3000 is my best bet as a beginner with absolutely no clue myself what I'm getting into?

is Trakktor LE enough or should I go for Pro?

Also considering getting "DJ for dummies" from amazon, seems a bit silly but it might start me off.

also any other forums I can join that'll help me?

I've no Idea what tracks/genre's I should be getting at the moment also, just to test out and hand mix in VDJ to start me off. I really like stuff like The bloody beetroots, Boys Noize, Edwin van cleef, We are terrorists, Kavinsky, Deadmau5, Soulwax, Tiesto. mostly Electro but some house.
 
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So a Behringer BCD3000 is my best bet as a beginner with absolutely no clue myself what I'm getting into?
Don't take my word on that. I just picked a name out of the hat for that one. Have a read around for review and compare some others.

As for music. Get whatever you want dude. It's your set list. :D
 
Don't take my word on that. I just picked a name out of the hat for that one. Have a read around for review and compare some others.

As for music. Get whatever you want dude. It's your set list. :D

Another person from Newquay :D (I grew up there for 17 years :))
 
Hmm can't say I agree on any of that. I don't know about BCD3000 because I have never bought a jogwheel midi controller. However they the VCI-100 is an amazing controller and comes with a built in soundcard so you get nice low latency and a headphone cue socket.

Decks are not for all. Some people don't want to beatmatch by hand and would rather worry about mixing and effects. Midi controllers will be the way forward and that's obvious as Pioneer have brought out new CDJs and so are Numark. Traktor comes with a soundcard with most of it's bundles. Traktor is and in every way better than Virtual DJ. I have never and hope to never see a DJ in a club use VDJ. Look at all the videos of DJs and Scratch DJs on Youtube and they will only be using Serato (same price as Traktor) or Traktor. Serato and Traktor Vinyl will work with some software. It will work with Mixx and XWax and other software. However Serato and Traktor would rather that you couldn't use the timecode vinyl with other software. That you can only use Serato if you own Serato approved hardware or have their soundcard. Traktor is the exception because you pay for the software were Serato is "free".

I can honestly say that with DJing brand names mean everything. Pioneer decks are the industry standard. In the US Serato is the popular choice for timecodes and in Europe it's Traktor. You only need to look at screenshots to see that Traktor and Serato have a much more friendly and easy to use interface than something like VDJ.

If you read on DJTT forums most newcomers will buy a jogwheel midi device and work their way up from there. However you may find that you are just fine with a controller and may want to spend any extra cash on some side controllers or a new soundcard. Decks take up space, cost money and you have to buy a mixer. While this can work out cheap, you don't get quality and in the end what's the point.

BCD3000 feels like a childs toy, believe me, plus most brands midi controllers have a built in soundcard, as for what you say about brand names being everything!! how? they mean nothing, industry standard means industry standard, not the best, if you have plans to play in clubs and be a professional hired club dj then you will need to learn and buy traktor/serato and pioneer/technics, as this will be the equipment you will use, and your straight in at the deep end with no tutorial, as for quality of sound, that is only ever as good as your needle, mixer and speakers, cdjs are digital, end of.
you wont see virtual dj in a club as its not club standard, its for djs who tour and do parties and stuff, how you think traktor or serato are any different is beyond me, ive used all 3, and they all do the same thing with a different skin basically, please dont tell me what you read on a forum, it means nothing without personal experience, not knocking you, if you want to believe brand hype its your money
Whatever you buy, the mixer is the single most important piece, if you want cdj, its upto you if you want to spend 2 grand on pio's flagship decks, however denon make equally as good midi/cdjs, and are cheaper, even numarks new deck is very tight and well worth checking out, regardless of your brands of choice, mixing is mixing and if you are not beatmatching manually and cant do it using a platter and pitch slider then you are going to be in big trouble trying to use other equipment, when you can do this easily within 4 bars then it makes absolutely no difference what kit you use as all you need is play and stop. Loops, effects etc are luxuries and really only used by trance djs
apologies for the wall of text
 
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