Solar panels and battery - any real world reccomendations?

Looking at 2 x 5.2kwh storage batteries so that we can charge one whilst using the other to power the house.
You're head has every right to hurt, there is lot to understand, a lot of misinformation out there, a lot of outdated information, and a lot a useful info, but sorting the useful from the not so useful is hard work.

Firstly what you describe in the bit above (that I've quoted) is not how it works, batteries are either charging, discharging or doing nothing, you can't really have one charging and one discharging, two batteries might balance to each other but we'll ignore that as that's not what you're talking about and really irrelevant.

If you have solar power, then firstly the house is supplied, and any excess will go to the batteries, and once they are full any excess will go to the grid, up to your permitted export power.

When the sun goes down or behind clouds the batteries will then supply power, once the batteries run out, the grid supplies power, all this is done automatically.

A lot of people, especially in the winter will charge off peak overnight, so if the sun isn't shining they run on cheaper off peak electricity. What catches a lot of people out, is their inverter isn't powerful enough to fully charge the batteries in the off peak period.

Another thing you need to be aware of, is getting paid for your exports (you're a low user so in the summer you will export lots with 20 panels), to make life easy you need an MCS certificate, otherwise most energy companies won't pay you. Octopus have been trialing a non MCS thing, but its very hard by all accounts to get onto it, and very little information.

When you say inlayed panels, what you are referring to what is known as in roof installation, where your roof tiles are removed, trays are then fitted in the roof and the panels installed in them.

One company that keeps coming up on here with good reviews is Spectra Solar, they are based in Wigan, but cover quite a large area, perhaps give them a ring.
 
Edit: Oops wrong thread - I've asked a Mod to move.

Quick question - over late spring, summer and autumn I moved to Intelligent Octopus Flux Import/Export - it manages my battery and does export / import, and the tariffs seem pretty decent.

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I wonder though now because of winter if I should just go back to flux, and control my battery myself?

For example, I'm importing from the grid at the moment which feels counter intuitive as my battery is 50% but exported a shed tonne during the peak time which is what octopus has designed in. I don't feel I'm being fleeced as over the summer it was very profitable and lowered the CO2 footprint according to the tracker so that's good.

I'm not worried about making money, more really for being on the most sensible tariff over the winter.

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This is what flux would be otherwise.
 
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Go or Agile for winter, get off flux once your generation starts dropping, you are probably 6 weeks late to the switch.

Is agile better than flux? I don't have an EV if that makes a difference.

With flux I can charge the batteries during the cheap time.

I've still been generating more than I use (bar a couple of weeks) - but you're right I should have probably changed a few weeks ago.
 
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Is agile better than flux?
Probably not over the last few weeks but generally yes.

With flux I can charge the batteries during the cheap time.

I've still been generating more than I use (bar a couple of weeks).
You can on Go/Agile - fill your batteries for 8.5p, sell export for 15p. The cut off for Flux/Intel Flux is something like 1.4 times what you are using compare to Go/Intel Go. Agile ore more interesting, particularly when the wind comes back and negative pricing returns.

I linked this video to @Ron-ski a few days ago:


The spreadsheets used in the video are:
simple version: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...LG74x6GnsA/view?gid=1137288393#gid=1137288393
Power user version: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ZK7Isw6_gM/view?gid=1137288393#gid=1137288393
 
My system broke his spreadsheet :cry: but all fixed now, for the time being I'm sticking on Flux.
do you think @fraseredwards will break it again? :D

Thank you. Will do some reading up tomorrow :)
It's defo a 'rule of thumb' rather than an exact science. Personally I stuck with IoG through the summer, Intel Flux would have probably been slightly better but it was really splitting hairs.
 
Hi guys - I have been quoted the following - is this any good / good value?

16 x 405 Watt Panels (DM405M10-54HBB) Hengdian Group DMEGC Magnetics
Sunsynk 5kW ECCO Hybrid Inverter - Sunsynk 1 x SYNK-5K-SG04LP1
10.24 kWh Total Battery Storage - 2 x SUNSYNK-L5.1
Price includes upgraded fuse board and EV charger

Quoted £11,750
 
Yes IMO. What EV charger is it?

It’s worth paying extra for some like like a Zappi or Hypervolt if it’s only covering something cheaper. Both of those chargers work with intelligent octopus go.

Just make sure they wire the EV charger in a way which means it isn’t covered by the battery CT clamps otherwise the car charger will drain the battery which is not something you want.
 
Yes IMO. What EV charger is it?

It’s worth paying extra for some like like a Zappi or Hypervolt if it’s only covering something cheaper. Both of those chargers work with intelligent octopus go.

Just make sure they wire the EV charger in a way which means it isn’t covered by the battery CT clamps otherwise the car charger will drain the battery which is not something you want.
They havent told me what ev charger it is - they just threw it in as a sweetener - freebie they said
 
I wouldn’t get so hung up on panel wattage. Anything over 400w is fine, they will rarely max out in this country and you re talking about a few hundred watts.

That is a really good deal, just ensure you re maxing your number of panels for your roof space.
 
The one they are offering is this :

BG Sync Energy EVWC2T7G Smart EV Charger 7.4kW​

It’s a no frills charger which is fine for its cost.

Personally I’d offer to pay the difference between that and a Zappi or a Hypervolt and see what they say.

These two chargers are set up for Octopus smart tariffs and the hypervolt also works with Ovo.

Smart tariffs where you tell the supplier how much you need by when and the energy supplier controls when the charging takes place are how things are going to need to work in the long term. Otherwise millions of cars are all going to instantly switch on at midnight and cause the grid to fall over.

It’s not the end of the world if they won’t, it’s just a direct swap later when it’s actually needed. In the mean time Eon Drive Next have very competitive ‘non-smart’ rates with a fixed 7 hour cheap period.
 
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never heard of this brand before, but i would want at least 430w if not 440w/450w panels
405w reeks of getting rid of cheap stock imo
Agreed. DMEGC do a 450w panel with a similar footprint and for very little extra. With 16 panels that's 6.48kW vs 7.2kW compare to the 405w. Quite a difference.

They're Tier 1 too, so the panels should be decent. A local place to here sells the 500w panels for £67 each and I could fit 12 on the garage. Must not do it... :o
 
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