SOME RYZEN 7 1700 OVERCLOCKING!

[gavinh87]

Reassuring to see you needing 1.37v for 3.8ghz. I've been running my 1600 at 3.7 on the stock cooler at 1.28v while I wait for a bracket for my Kraken before I go any higher, I tried 3.8ghz at 1.3v at it's fine until I try and run a game and then I just black screen and mobo lights start flashing.

It is off putting when you see people post things like 4.0 with 1.35v lol but I'm willing to bet none of those can do a proper stress test without falling over. I could maybe get it a tad lower but the amount of benchmarks and stressing it for hours on end again isn't worth it.

 

[CEUOTC]

Reassuring to see you needing 1.37v for 3.8ghz. I've been running my 1600 at 3.7 on the stock cooler at 1.28v while I wait for a bracket for my Kraken before I go any higher, I tried 3.8ghz at 1.3v at it's fine until I try and run a game and then I just black screen and mobo lights start flashing.

3800 @ 1.2, 3900 @ 1.3 and 4000 @ 1.45. Quite happy to run it at 3800, however cannot get the RAM to run @ 3200, stable @ 2933.

MSI Tomahawk with Beta BIOS 1.31, tried official 1.3 but OC would not stick and ram would run at 2133.

 

[gavinh87]

3800 @ 1.2, 3900 @ 1.3 and 4000 @ 1.45. Quite happy to run it at 3800, however cannot get the RAM to run @ 3200, stable @ 2933.

MSI Tomahawk with Beta BIOS 1.31, tried official 1.3 but OC would not stick and ram would run at 2133.

What testing have you done at those voltages? Just curious.

 

[cereal3]

I would reset everything to default and try to run the ram using a-xmp profile 2. And just see can you run at that speeds.

And I have read in other places that the ram doesn't like been run at 1.36volts. People had more success running at 1.35v.

Just a quick question, did you reset everything to Stock before you did the BIOS upgrade?

Nope, did not, guess I will reset to stock before flashing next update... memory can't even get to 2666mhz without windows dying on the login screen, and a-xmp profile 2 for 2933 won't post and I have to reset CMOS.

I have tried setting everything stock and just clocking memory, same result

Edit: just noticed my ram on the msi site QVL is not listed, two of the same part codes with W and R at the end of them (signifying red and white sticks) are though, my sticks are black, surely they are the same with a different colour? or maybe that's why its not working? my cpu-z reports part number CMK16GX4M2B3200C16

 

[triss]

I think I've found the sweet spot for my 1700. 3.9 was stable with 1.42 for a couple of weeks and I threw everything at that but I started having problems. I've backed it down to 3.8 with 1.37v.
The temps have gone from 72 degrees to 52 on full load with corsair h100i. I have lost about 30 points on firestrike and only a few in cinebench.

Spoiler

The extra heat and voltage along with instability doesn't warrant the extra performance IMO. I could very well go up to 1.45 but for 100mhz isn't worth the heat and noise.
Now I just need AMD to release an extra memory strap so I can actually use my 3600 ram

Since you were stable at 3.9 and now your not do you think perhaps your cpu has already degraded some?

 

[HeX]

3.6GHz @ stock voltage
3.8GHz @ 1.3V
3.9GHz @ 1.35V

Those are all cinebench, game, and 4hr Prime stable.

Can't get anything truly stable past that even with voltage all the way up to 1.45V.

It'll game up to 4.1, but prime will reset the PC.

 

[prjwebb]

3.6GHz @ stock voltage
3.8GHz @ 1.3V
3.9GHz @ 1.35V

Those are all cinebench, game, and 4hr Prime stable.

Can't get anything truly stable past that even with voltage all the way up to 1.45V.

It'll game up to 4.1, but prime will reset the PC.

Are you adjusting anything else apart from vcore for that?

 

[opethdisciple]

So basically with these chips if you overclock it anywhere between 3.7Ghz - 4Ghz you've basically got the performance of the 1800x?

 

[muon]

So basically with these chips if you overclock it anywhere between 3.7Ghz - 4Ghz you've basically got the performance of the 1800x?

Yes and it isn't like the 1800X can actually overclock any higher.

 

[HeX]

Are you adjusting anything else apart from vcore for that?

For those clocks just multiplier and vcore.

So basically with these chips if you overclock it anywhere between 3.7Ghz - 4Ghz you've basically got the performance of the 1800x?

Faster really, because 1800x is only 3.6 all core.

 

[LtMatt]

For those clocks just multiplier and vcore.

Faster really, because 1800x is only 3.6 all core.

1800X is 3.7Ghz turbo with XFR providing you have thermal headroom. On single dual threaded workloads XFR will boost the 1800X to 4.1Ghz.

 

[gavinh87]

Since you were stable at 3.9 and now your not do you think perhaps your cpu has already degraded some?

That was my first thought but so soon? It's not like i was using excessive voltage. I really have no answer other than it wasn't 100% stable before despite passing 8 hours of intel burn test y cruncher and occt.

 

[eyetrip]

currently trying for 4.075 at around 1.45v

 

[gavinh87]

currently trying for 4.075 at around 1.45v

Arggh **** off!!

 

[eyetrip]

that was a little too far it seems, so 4050

I'm sure if I was prepared to tinker for long enough I could get 4.1 under 1.5V

 

[triss]

That was my first thought but so soon? It's not like i was using excessive voltage. I really have no answer other than it wasn't 100% stable before despite passing 8 hours of intel burn test y cruncher and occt.

Time will tell i guess, hopefully its nothing to worry about, or maybe a bios change etc?

 

[eyetrip]

Maybe I'm living in a dream world - maybe with enough tinkering I can get 4050 with 1.5V

 

[gavinh87]

Time will tell i guess, hopefully its nothing to worry about, or maybe a bios change etc?

I've just done IBT test on max for 10 runs and passed. I've turned LLC off and vcore saw drops to 1.3 from 1.37 but still stable. I still cannot see why this cannot do 3.9 @ 1.42 though.
I'm happy where it is now tbh, the noise and heat savings for 100mhz makes me feel better about having a runt lol.

Maybe I'm living in a dream world - maybe with enough tinkering I can get 4050 with 1.5V

What are you using to stress?

 

[gupsterg]

1800X is 3.7Ghz turbo with XFR providing you have thermal headroom. On single dual threaded workloads XFR will boost the 1800X to 4.1Ghz.

XFR seems pants TBH. From my observations and some others, the boosting happens for such a little time frame hardly worth considering as a feature. One of the R7 1700 I have needs ~0.050V offset to reach 3.7GHz ACB. 48 loops x264, CPU Voltage (SVI2 TFN) max: 1.244V. On ebay FVF promo flogged the Wraith Spire RGB netted ~£43, damn good "bang for $" the 1700 .

 

[eyetrip]

I've just done IBT test on max for 10 runs and passed. I've turned LLC off and vcore saw drops to 1.3 from 1.37 but still stable. I still cannot see why this cannot do 3.9 @ 1.42 though.
I'm happy where it is now tbh, the noise and heat savings for 100mhz makes me feel better about having a runt lol.


What are you using to stress?

Was using realbench, but still got black screen issues with that (its some luxmark issue that comes up with nvidia), so had enough of that and just sticking to Aida64 now.

There are two ways realbench dies with black screen though - one is hard system crash, where it requires shutting down. The other is luxmark/gpu related where I can just unplug the hdmi cable and plug it back in to see the luxmark crash message.

it's easy enough to tell which by whether my keyboard lights are on or off.

Though, I was going down that road of too much tinkering again - all I wanted from this was 4Ghz, so that is all I am aiming for now without pushing anything to what I consider mental levels - I do want this to last a while