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Goberpiles316 said:
Get real will you, when kids are still at home at 18,19,20,21,22+ they are not kids any more they are adults and need to either leave the nest or contribute, not everyone is loaded and can finance 3+ people forever.
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You do not need to be loaded at all. And kids will generally help out in retirement/old age.
At 18-mid 20s is when you are earning the least and have the biggest costs, as parents you should want to help kids out as much as possible. I'm very grateful for my parents to have this attitude and if I have kids will pass on the same attitude.
Charging really is poor show, old fashioned and un needed. It shows/teaches zero money control. Even 25% once a month is in no realms like reality if budgeting over a whole month. There's no struggle to pay it and no balancing things to pay bills even at end of month, it really is nonsense.
 
Rroff said:
I agree with Spoffle - if your going to have kids own that responsibility, though also there is the point above about maintaining a lifestyle, etc. a little common sense has to come into it.
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Rroff that's fine but when does it stop? Their is a big difference between funding a 5/10 year old then a young adult at 18+ years old, paying your way helps you learn that not everything in life is free, ultimately you have kids and then they leave the nest and move on with their lives, if you make that nest so comfortable they wont ever want to move on....
 
Goberpiles316 said:
Get real will you, when kids are still at home at 18,19,20,21,22+ they are not kids any more they are adults and need to either leave the nest or contribute, not everyone is loaded and can finance 3+ people forever.
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What is this "need" based on exactly? Why do they "need" to either leave, or pay up?

I'm not adverse to helping parents at all, it's the notion of "I've done all this for you, you owe me" that some people are coming out with. The parents chose to have the kids they have, they need to accept that and stop thinking their kids owe them.
 
Goberpiles316 said:
Rroff that's fine but when does it stop? Their is a big difference between funding a 5/10 year old then a young adult at 18+ years old, paying your way helps you learn that not everything in life is free, ultimately you have kids and then they leave the nest and move on with their lives, if you make that nest so comfortable they wont ever want to move on....
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More nonsense, as 99% of people do move on. Paying/not paying has little to do with people who don't move on. they're usually the severely socially awkward, mum boy type people. Lots of us had parent's which asked for nothing in this thread, how many still live at home? How many of us can't budget?
 
Goberpiles316 said:
Rroff that's fine but when does it stop? Their is a big difference between funding a 5/10 year old then a young adult at 18+ years old, paying your way helps you learn that not everything in life is free, ultimately you have kids and then they leave the nest and move on with their lives, if you make that nest so comfortable they wont ever want to move on....
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Why are you only talking about 5/10 and 18+? How odd.

There any many ways to help people understand that not everything in life is free, and your assertion that if you make it "too" comfortable, they'll never move on isn't true either.
 
Would be interesting to know exactly how many of you with such high opinions of what you will do actually have kids and have left home yet, maybe some of us are a little more old fashioned as we are from a different generation, when you wanted to help support your parents and not just take, take and take some more.
 
Yes, because people who don't have kids now, will suddenly become selfish and develop an entitlement complex towards their kids "owing" them for being born and looked after, when they had no say it any of it what so ever.

Yes, that's certainly "old fashioned".

Support isn't being forced to give up part of your wages, or be kicked out.
 
Goberpiles316 said:
Would be interesting to know exactly how many of you with such high opinions of what you will do actually have kids and have left home yet, maybe some of us are a little more old fashioned as we are from a different generation, when you wanted to help support your parents and not just take, take and take some more.
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Lol, more nonsense from you. It has nothing to do with take take take and not wanting to help parents. Its got everything to do with parent's wanting to help kids out at one of the toughest financial times of their life.
I also fully expect that parents will need help and possibly financial help in retirement, so no it's not take take take. It's when and how you help and what it achieves.

Charging kids to stay at home really does achieve zero. It doesn't teach budgeting as it's just comes out straight after pay and they still have ~75% left to spend as is without worry or bills.

And you aren't so old. that kids needed to help out financially, it's been a long time since then for the vast majority. If parents need help then yes you should contribute. This is not the case for most people.
 
spoffle said:
Yes, because people who don't have kids now, will suddenly become selfish and develop an entitlement complex towards their kids "owing" them for being born and looked after, when they had no say it any of it what so ever.

Yes, that's certainly "old fashioned".

Support isn't being forced to give up part of your wages, or be kicked out.
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So Parents asking kids to pay something towards living in the house to help towards food and bills that keep increasing is selfish jut lol :D
 
When you say pay nothing are you meaning completely zero you will not give your parents a penny? What happens with the below situations which were the ones I experienced when I was a young adult.

So when your parents have Sky tv downstairs and you want multi room in your room who should pay the monthly fee you or your parents? When the phone bill arrives and £40 a month is because your on the phone all the time who pays the bill? Who pays for the broadband you or your parents?
 
Also keeping in mind that when the child is 18-25, the parent is likely to be the peak of their careers (if they were responsible in their own lives). Which makes the whole concept even more ridiculous.

I'd imagine there are a number of parents on here that didn't think before having kids, and haven't reached their potential in a career. As such are reflecting this back on their children who are now earning money and feel they are entitled to a piece of that to supplement their own income to compensate them for their failures.
 
Sudden said:
I don't think i'll ever understand this culture of charging your children.

Do you need the cash he contributes? If no, don't charge. If yes, then he should be contributing whatever you need, regardless.

But maybe that view is because I didn't grow up here.
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I grew up in California, but paid rent to my parents of about $500 a month when I started my first job at 16, so I think it's quite normal.
 
spoffle said:
Yes, but why are they "constantly increasing"?
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I take it your not 10 so you are fully aware that food has increase in price a lot over the past 5 years? As me and you get older and we still live at home we tend to eat more, bring round our pals and raid the fridge and the cupboards for food, then we buy a PC and spend hours and hours sitting on it, it may of been easier for me to understand as my parents didn't have sky or dial up internet as it was at the time, broadband was too new so my parents simply said if I wanted it I would have to buy it myself which I thought was fair, I didnt pay a lot maybe £100 a month but I paid my sky bill and my phone bill.
 
Old Man said:
I grew up in California, but paid rent to my parents of about $500 a month when I started my first job at 16, so I think it's quite normal.
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In my experience it's usually the lower class/poorer/unsuccessful families that keen up this old tradition in the UK.
 
Goberpiles316 said:
When you say pay nothing are you meaning completely zero you will not give your parents a penny? What happens with the below situations which were the ones I experienced when I was a young adult.

So when your parents have Sky tv downstairs and you want multi room in your room who should pay the monthly fee you or your parents? When the phone bill arrives and £40 a month is because your on the phone all the time who pays the bill? Who pays for the broadband you or your parents?
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Anything parents would pay for they would, I wanted faster broadband so I paid the extra. Mobile phones now so that's not an issue, kid pays for that. Sky would depend on the setup. If they've always had it then parents, if you decide you want it then you pay.

This is massively different from just paying a random sum for bed and bored and you know it. So stop trying to twist your twisted logic.
 
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