*** Sony Xperia Z5 ***

a lot of reviews are saying the 4k and 1080p screens arnt that much different as both are excellent but the real question is, is the premium really worth it? as far as i can see the premium has a 4k screen and larger battery and thats about it but £100 more.
 
a lot of reviews are saying the 4k and 1080p screens arnt that much different as both are excellent but the real question is, is the premium really worth it? as far as i can see the premium has a 4k screen and larger battery and thats about it but £100 more.

remember the premium also has a bigger screen.
 
And a Reddit hands on review:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/3jysq9/hands_on_sony_xperia_z5_premium/

Specs aside, what does it actually look like? It is eye-catchingly perfect, but it’s not immediately obvious that this is a 4K display. It’s only up close that you get an idea of just how sharp this screen is. You can put it as close as you like to your eyeballs and you will not be able to detect a hint of pixelation. Look at it side by side with a 1080p display, however, and the difference is stark: the colors are lush, the detail is impressive, and you get a greater sense of depth.

The camera is a little harder to test on the show floor, but it’s certainly fast, responsive, and seems to take high quality photos. Although the large sensor is rated at 23-megapixels it scales down to 8-megapixels. This means you can zoom in on photos without losing all the detail.

There were issues with overheating in the early versions of the 810, and it’s something Sony has struggled with in previous Xperia Z phones, especially when it comes to 4K recording. I found the Z5 Premium wasn’t running especially hot when I used it. Recording video definitely turned up the temperature, but it never reached uncomfortable levels.

Sony has put a hefty 3,430mAh battery in the Z5 Premium. When I dipped into the power management page and took a look at battery usage, I could see that the demo model had been running all day yesterday and for a couple of hours this morning without being charged and it had 21 percent left in the tank. Perhaps a couple of days between charges, even with the 4K display, isn’t an impossible dream.

And some more hands on:

"Beyond the specs regurgitation, we were pleasantly surprised to find that Sony's new super-fast HybridAF focusing tech lives up to the company's claims, and is particularly responsive when shooting video under continuous auto focus (CAF)," PhoneArena pointed out.

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/8...-4k-1080p-capabilities-and-hybridaf-speed.htm

Essentially it's nearly a fully fledged camcorder :cool:
 
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Calling that a review is a bit generous, considering they're using the device on the show floor, i.e. exactly what every other media outlet has been doing and reporting on.
 
Well it is a "hands on" I suppose, but either way it correlates with all the other tech press on the floor too, which is good news.
 
Wont be getting my next phone till later next year when my contract runs out but I'm liking the sound of that Z5 Ultra if those specs are real. The Note 6 will have a lot to prove if its going to tempt me over something like that.
 
I have to ask, how on earth are you guys managing to put a 6"+ phone into your pockets and feel not awkward.

I am deliberating whether I should go for a 5.5 or 5.2 and I have actually cut the phones dimensions out of thin cardboard and believe me that extra 0.3" makes the phone feel much bigger and quite uncomfortable for my hands. My biggest issue has always been how easily the pocketable the phone is considering my current phone is only 3.6". I cant stand large objects in my pockets and I tried a Nokia 920 and it just felt bad to say the least.

I really wanted the new phone but all in shiny black but only the Z5 premium comes in that size and that might be too much for me, so its either z3+ or z3c for me now.

Shame Sony did not offer glossy black finish. :(
 
The Z5P is only a bit taller than the Note 3, the Note 3 is wider and thicker and that fit in my jeans pockets just fine. It doesn't feel or look awkward btw, I don't wear skinny jeans though.

I want the Premium, but would probably be just as happy with the non premium.
 
What the hell is the purpose of that huge bezel at the bottom?

No idea but lets take a look inside?

gsmarena_002.jpg


I cant quite figure it out. Maybe someone else can.

Also interesting the normal Z5 is using dual pipes for cooling too.
 
I'd imagine Sony took no chances, it would be mad to not use the heat pipes in the entire Z5 range since the internals here are the same, but in a smaller body, so doubly vital for heat dissipation.
 
I'd imagine Sony took no chances, it would be mad to not use the heat pipes in the entire Z5 range since the internals here are the same, but in a smaller body, so doubly vital for heat dissipation.

Totally agree.
Makes one wonder, will heat pipes be integrated into phone designs going forward (Z5 Ultra or Z6.) Or will cooler SoC's prevail with the transition to 14nm, forgoing the need for heat pipes?

Totally valid question, considering the technology isn't new, and been used in PC's, Laptop's and servers for almost 10 years.
It's effective, or more effective than tradition copper heat sinks.
But also more expensive to manufacture, and prone inherently to fail sooner (Gas, contained within chamber.)

What's peoples opinion?
 
Well laptops have used heatpipes for years and they rarely fail. Sooner the HDD fail than the cooling system. It's a fairly bullet proof system to be fair so I wouldn't cast any doubt over reliability or efficiency :)

The upshot here is that if it does get toasty, just dunk it in ice water ;)

The Z5 Premium goes under the microscope:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_premium_4k_display_under_our_microscope-blog-13887.php

So based on their speculation from what they've observed, the Z5P renders Lollipo at 1080P but switches to 4K when the app or content calls for it. To add to this, one commenter on reddit said:
it's because Android doesn't support 4K output natively yet. It's added in marshmallow. As soon as the update hits (which is promised), everything will run in native 4K.

Souce: I asked the promoter at IFA about that exact topic on saturday. This is what he told me (so take it with a grain of salt)

Makes sense, Marshmallow update should see Android look far crisper on the Z5P than any of the competition perhaps? If that's the case then November is going to be a very interesting month indeed.

It's worth noting that no member of press said the 1080P rendered display looked any worse than 1440P displays, they said it was hard to tell the difference between the two, which points to an efficient upscaling algorithm by Sony on Lollipop.

Also remember that while we all doss with the prospect of 4K phone screens, people said the same about 1080P years back. I think this will be the next big thing for super sharp text and media content, that and being able to stream 4KL to 4K TVs and the like over Wireless-ac.
 
Except there is virtually no to **** all difference between 1080 and 1440 res on phones with <5.9" screen :p Unless you have the phones side by side and on certain content i.e. this forum when zoomed out then you are going to have an extremely hard time noticing the difference. Even MKBHD was hard pressed to notice the difference between the OP2 1080P screen and 2560x1440 screens and he is a massive "pixel peeper", in fact I think he originally thought the OP2 was a qHD display...

IMO, screen quality in other areas i.e. contrast/blacks, view-ability in sunshine, viewing angles etc. are far more important than having an over kill res. for general usage, no doubt the sony screens will be good in those areas but they won't beat the OLED display in the GS 6, note 4 & 5 "overall".

AFAIC, the only thing 4k is good for is VR and epeen/marketing. If you aren't interested in either of those things then it will be a wasted "feature", I am 90% sure that most people would rather have a qHD, even a 1080P display in return for even better battery life and more performance.
 
The difference between QHD and 1080P is small/negligible, yeah, but the difference between 1080P and 4K is not so small. You don't need to have an opinion about either side on the matter really as those microscope shots show you exactly what is what, the 4K display has a far denser pixel array capable of sharper resolve. But of course that will be when 4K is being displayed.

Hence the quote on marshmallow and native 4K support since current Android doesn't support it natively. So Sony have added 4K support for content by the video renderer when content being played is 4K resolution (which makes logical sense really).

That is the reason why people aren't seeing a difference between HD, QHD and now 4K here, at present. Android doesn't natively support it on Lollipop.

It also has benefits beyond VR/marketing and suchlike. I agree a lot of it will be marketing/peen between the competition, the way I see it is this.. once the reviews start popping up post Marshmallow update is out, we will see the benefits of 4K pop up. I wasn't sure before, but all the extra stuff I've read and seen today puts my mind at rest at least.
 
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