South Korea Jeju air plane crash

Hey, i'm just throwing thoughts around here. What if doesn't really matter now, just interested in what other options the pilots could have had. I'm not a pilot myself obviously so want others thoughts.
 
Whoever built that wall is about to experience what it feels like to be investigated for decades.
There'll be something daft like they're only allowed the foundation to portrude above ground level by a couple of feet or something so to meet regs, they'll then have banked up soil in front of it.

Oslo Torp Sandefjord Airport, looks like how it should be done:

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There'll be something daft like they're only allowed the foundation to portrude above ground level by a couple of feet or something so to meet regs, they'll then have banked up soil in front of it.

Oslo Torp Sandefjord Airport, looks like how it should be done:

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A giant jump? I mean seriously how is a 20ft caven any better?
 
The basic premise of the wall argument.is make runways longer. You'd never win. Let's focus on the catalog of issues that led the flight to the incident in the first place.
 
It veered off the side of the runway, a quick Google earth shows 'wall' like structures at the top and bottom of the runway.

The plane in Korea crashed into a concert wall that common sense suggests simply shouldn't have been there, you're really reaching here with this comparison, but if it wasn't already obvious from a basic common sense perspective then here are some experts citing the same thing - ordinarily this should be a collapsable structure!

Aviation experts have said airport authorities in South Korea should face serious questions over the concrete wall that a plane collided with killing 179 people.

Leading air safety expert David Learmount told Sky News the collision with the wall that supported a guidance system at the end of the runway was the "defining moment" of the disaster.
"Not only is there no justification [for it to be there], I think it's verging on criminal to have it there," he said.
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At most airports these systems are placed on collapsible structures.

"To have a hard object about 200m or less into the overrun, I've never seen anything like this anywhere ever before,
" Mr Learmount added.
 
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The plane in Korea crashed into a concert wall that common sense suggests simply shouldn't have been there, you're really reaching here with this comparison, but if it wasn't already obvious from a basic common sense perspective then here are some experts citing the same thing - ordinarily this should be a collapsable structure!

You made the comparison not me, lol. Yes if the concert wall wasn't there it may have changed the outcome - if the runway was 10x longer it may have too. If the plane landed on wheels with full thrust reversers it may have too.

It's such a bizarre thing to pick argument on given how deep down the rabbit hole this flight already was.
 
Hey, i'm just throwing thoughts around here. What if doesn't really matter now, just interested in what other options the pilots could have had. I'm not a pilot myself obviously so want others thoughts.

Until we know what actually happened it’s impossible to evaluate options. There are lots of things that don’t add up.
 
You made the comparison not me, lol.

No, you looked on google maps and made a vague comparison because you saw a structure of some sort.

In reality, they're rather different and you're completely reaching here - you seem to have been instantly dismissive of this concrete wall issue and now you're just throwing in silliness about how the runway could be made 10x longer too as if that's comparable to applying some common sense re: being mindful of what structures are built where planes may overshoot runways!

Yes if the concert wall wasn't there it may have changed the outcome - if the runway was 10x longer it may have too. If the plane landed on wheels with full thrust reversers it may have too.

It's such a bizarre thing to pick argument on given how deep down the rabbit hole this flight already was.

It's not bizarre, if they'd had a collapsable structure there or some other design then a bunch of people might have been alive still - as pointed out the aviation expert quoted called it criminal... you're just in denial tbh..
 
You made the comparison not me, lol. Yes if the concert wall wasn't there it may have changed the outcome - if the runway was 10x longer it may have too. If the plane landed on wheels with full thrust reversers it may have too.

It's such a bizarre thing to pick argument on given how deep down the rabbit hole this flight already was.

Aircraft are design to survive all sorts of problems, including many shown in this accident such as a gear up landing. Runoffs are a reasonably common occurrence, and even at high speed they are easily surviveable:


Having a giant concrete wall there when it doesn’t have to be like that is just bizarre and has probably killed most of the people on the planet.
 
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