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Southport stabbings
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Why are you typing like that? Are you trying to take the moral high ground or something?
Soldato
Nothing moral about it. Time and time again the boats have been proven to be a scapegoat yet people still really believe they're the biggest problem we have.
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It’s a huge issue at the moment, mainly because it’s irreversible and nobody has a quick solution to the problem unless you goto drastic measures and start sinking them
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Caporegime
Is it? So the men and women who serve in our armed forces or emergency services, or who play for our national teams or compete for medals at the Olympics etc. under our flags, whose parents were immigrants, would you say the same about them?
Soldato
Small boat crossings 'dwarfs' legal migration.
UK net migration hits its peak since 1855
Ed Conway says UK net migration is at its highest since 1855, making it one of the biggest issues in society and the upcoming elections.
It's an issue, yes, but not the big one that certain parties or broadcasters would like you to believe.
Soldato
Let me start by saying that this his horrific news, the harming of children, let alone killing is one of the most evil acts and it shouldn’t be left unpunished.
But this thread is ridiculous… why do people feel the need to twist what is already a very upsetting situation to fit their own agendas?
The first though should be with the children, their families and friends not where was the killer from, what was his region or skin colour..
If he lived here 11 years and came at 6 he's pretty much naturalised and likely had British citizenship for a long time.
I'd hope his upbringing, education etc was not exactly immigrant mind set.
like maybe someone fresh here as an adult might have.
you know someone in limbo waiting on an asylum claim for a few years, and just having had enough lashes out with entitlement or someone who can't fit in with society etc
The reasons for his actions would surely be very different and not immigration/religion related, and instead more in common with a "British person"
But I guess it depends on what's actually true.
I guess it's possible he was in care with recent arrivals.
I'd hope his upbringing, education etc was not exactly immigrant mind set.
like maybe someone fresh here as an adult might have.
you know someone in limbo waiting on an asylum claim for a few years, and just having had enough lashes out with entitlement or someone who can't fit in with society etc
The reasons for his actions would surely be very different and not immigration/religion related, and instead more in common with a "British person"
But I guess it depends on what's actually true.
Apparently the police raided a place where they hold migrants, an ex old peoples home or something.
I guess it's possible he was in care with recent arrivals.
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Maybe because it is becoming depressingly common that these atrocities ARE tied to religion and skin colour.
Commissario
My guess he's probably going to die whilst locked away.
Either as a whole life term.
Indefinite detention with no one ever willing to risk releasing him if he's actually mentally ill, which despite some people's idea is actually really hard to fake, and it's rare enough for someone to be mentally ill with a condition that leads them to this sort of act that the doctors will never sanction a release as the bar for them to agree he's safe is so high.
Suicide/Someone recognising him and not having anything left to lose themselves.
I can't imagine what the parents and the kids, both those who were attacked and those that saw it are going through
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Associate
Different cultures are always going to be influenced to their child, most of my friends are Indians in there 40s, and there parents all told them that they are going to have arranged marriages, and my friends are going to enforce that to their children as well.
It’s very similar to when British people move to Dubai, 99% of British people will still eat roast dinners at home with their family and watch English football on TV.
I was replying to the poster suggesting merely being a "British National" would be enough to embarrass thoose suggesting this could be yet another example of why the past few decades of mass inward migration to the UK, from cultures rather dissimiliar to what was traditionally the culture of this country, is a bad idea.
Salman Abedi was a British born "British National" so if anything these sorts of cases are worse as it leads to the suggestion that a lot of 2nd 3rd generation etc people in this country aren't integrating.
I appreciate the person in this case appear to be from Rwanda and so religion may not be a factor like it was with Abedi.
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Soldato
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That puts it to bed, he was a British national (I guess people will now say he wasn't English, he was Welsh)
Banks is a pretty small village on the outskirts of Southport, its mostly pensioners that live there.
I can't see the name staying unknown for long, assuming the one on X/ Twitter previously was wrong (fairly likely the case as the other information accompanying the name appears to have been made up)
I can't see the name staying unknown for long, assuming the one on X/ Twitter previously was wrong (fairly likely the case as the other information accompanying the name appears to have been made up)
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The "stabber" was a Rwandan. Actually he likely used a machete. The press use language to minimise the horror of these attacks, like calling him a "boy." They ask people not to speculate to allow people's outrage to dissipate.
If it is a Muslim attack, the government have paid Muslims to say how terrible it is. You can spot these people in common from incident to incident, offering thoughts and prayers. One time they are asked a question in the audience on question Time, then they are spontaneously gathering to say how awful some attack is, then they are stopped in the street and asked their opinion on some terror outrage.
An immigration bill was repealed in Parliament in November 1753. Speaking for repeal, the Duke of Bedford said that two things were principle when admitting people into the UK. Firstly, they must never be admitted in numbers anywhere near being able to challenge the natives. Secondly, you must never give nationality to any group who doesn't assimilate after the second generation. They should never maintain a separate identity.
It is far too late to close the gates. You would need mass repatriation to bring the country back to a peaceful state. That won't happen, as the TV only have to show a crying child to stop expulsions. You have to plan accordingly.
If it is a Muslim attack, the government have paid Muslims to say how terrible it is. You can spot these people in common from incident to incident, offering thoughts and prayers. One time they are asked a question in the audience on question Time, then they are spontaneously gathering to say how awful some attack is, then they are stopped in the street and asked their opinion on some terror outrage.
An immigration bill was repealed in Parliament in November 1753. Speaking for repeal, the Duke of Bedford said that two things were principle when admitting people into the UK. Firstly, they must never be admitted in numbers anywhere near being able to challenge the natives. Secondly, you must never give nationality to any group who doesn't assimilate after the second generation. They should never maintain a separate identity.
It is far too late to close the gates. You would need mass repatriation to bring the country back to a peaceful state. That won't happen, as the TV only have to show a crying child to stop expulsions. You have to plan accordingly.
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Soldato
Unless the act was motivated by religion or skin colour in the twisted mind of the offender, in my view… it shouldn’t be a factor.
So far, nothing I’ve read from the police has tied this to a religious act or culturally motivated.
It doesn’t help integration, when there are certain people in our country that will point out differences and isolate minorities at every chance they see.
Even people from Poland, a country not too dissimilar from the UK, get treated like **** by some people.
Naa… they will come out with the saying “a pig born in a stable isn’t a horses” or something similar.
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Soldato
Stabbing a load of kids doesn't really help integration either.
When was the last attack of this kind in the UK? Feel like it's been a good while since something this awful has happened.
Soldato
Some of you guys in here simply disgust me.
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Caporegime
Death penalty still looking good for crimes like this....
17 years old.....
Waste of skin.
17 years old.....
Waste of skin.
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