From my experience of Southport, there is no policing full stop.
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That's quite the reach.
Soldato
Well, a correct reach. Reform rhetoric has been on this channel since 2016
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*yawns*
24 hours to prepare tactical support units and bus in officers from all over to deal with the idiots tends to make a bit of a difference to what the response can be. Just the fact it was a major murder investigation means there would have been probably dozens if not hundreds more officers than normal in the area.
If the thing in leeds had lasted longer I suspect the riot units would have been taking part, but outside of maybe london most forces don't have the officers available to put them out in sufficient numbers to deal with riots without at least a few hours of muster and travel time (sure they might have sufficient numbers on duty, but across the entire force area and pulling them in to deal with crowd outside of the police station would likely have left few to deal with life threatening incidents).
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Your conclusion of why people are rioting is because Labour won? Well okay then....
Well that's a big part of the issue isn't it?
Hopelessness and governments who've provided nothing but excuses since the pit closures.
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Yes, I believe the police should be equally tough at both protests. I wish they stood their ground in Leeds too. How you assumed that in your first sentence tell me you have no critical thinking ability.
From my experience of spending years in Southport, there is plenty of policing.
But like everywhere in the UK, the police have faced some huge budget cuts.
Wiltshire has always felt like a ****hole every time I've had to spend a week or two there for work.
Just sayin'
It used to be quite full on back from the 60s to the 90s. It was the first non city with it's own drugs squad. But like a lot of other places that's all gone. Southport needs that though cos it's where they dump a load of care in the community from all over the north west PLUS it's an hour away from Liverpool docks and Manchester airport. It's not a good mix unless you're into that kinda thing. ie Posh houses, available drugs and available vulnerable people. Oh.
I loved it when I was kid. Not so much the vulnerable people, but the easy availability of prescription drugs was big plus. When I was 17/18, I thought that was normal. Never mind the rest of it.
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And if they do that then the moment the police are slow to respond to the "it's Mr Blobby" claims then the mob will go with "see it's Mr Blobby"
Or it turns out that it was a "Mr Blobby" but there are a dozen "Mr Blobby's" in the area and the claim will be the police were lying.
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No, it’s Reform types, who invariably would be upset by that.
EDL, Kippers, Reform, all the same sandwiches, different packaging.
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Where was your critical thinking when you wrote....
While completely failing to consider the point(s) raised by @Werewolf - which would be obvious to anyone.... namely the (almost) 24hrs "notice" the police had to get officers shipped in and setup.
Caporegime
Absolutely no evidence that religion was involved here, but the former EDL types turn up, some draped in England flags carrying crates of booze and chanting who the **** is Allah outside a mosque.
This country is a tinderbox. If it's not this event, there'll be another soon enough, and it'll kick off all over the country.
This country is a tinderbox. If it's not this event, there'll be another soon enough, and it'll kick off all over the country.
I don't agree with him, they had just as much time to react in Manchester, they know how the community would react but they amount of police was weak and terrible
Liverpool and Manchester cops will be itching to put their boots into Southport scrotes if they kick off.
Nothing to do with their colour.
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Exactly, and it’s the outcome Reform and the Kippers want. When they get all shy about “1930s” comments, well look at this.
But they didn't though, did they?
Manchester kicked off after police showed up with social services to take kids away whom they had suspicion / evidence of neglect / abuse.
The locals then kicked off and turned it into a riot.
The bunch of knuckle-dragging morons in Southport kicking off were not doing it "spontaneously" and the police could see the building tension throughout the whole day, giving them time to get officers and resources in place.
You are attempting to conflate 2 entirely different circumstances to facilitate your continued belief that "They only brought the riot gear out cus it's white people" (paraphrasing).
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What was involved then?
Has anything been said about his motives?
I have read some things about him, that would explain the situation
I spent the first 28 years of my life living there, and there was no end of crime in all parts of town, High Park especially.
I had stuff stolen, I was assaulted, antisocial behaviour, copious amounts of drugs in the bars in town.
Don't get me wrong, it's a nice enough place, especially for the north, but it never struck me as a 'safe' place. Wiltshire is heaven in comparison, very little crime to hear of.
Precisely.
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