Krikey, something right at the back of the garage then where all the tyres are stored?? Thus the smoke? although in saying that. Fuel gives off a hell of a lot of smoke when it burns.
Spanish Grand Prix 2012, Catalunya - Race 5/20
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Krikey, something right at the back of the garage then where all the tyres are stored?? Thus the smoke? although in saying that. Fuel gives off a hell of a lot of smoke when it burns.
I'm not sure sprinklers would be a great idea, given the kind of fires you're expecting. Water + oil fire = disaster, surely?
Barcelona is an older complex. Nothing that sophisticated. Plus they're just concrete buildings.
Fire was out before the fire crews arrived. Just from a constant stream of mechanics with extinguishers. Seriously impressive that they just threw themselves into it. Someone needs to buy them all a load of beers.
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You can get powder sprinkler systems commonly used in industrial kitchens. There pretty impressive things to watch when set off!
I bet a few of the teams will be considering coming up with some mobile units now!
Buemi had a fuel irregularity (incorrect mix) and Hamilton had a fuel irrecularity (not enough to fulfil the obligations of completing the session). Both are very comparable, both teams made a mistake, if you take it innocently, but also both teams cheated (as a theoretical advantage can be obtained).
The fact that a measurable advantage was not really made by either is irrelevant, they broke the rules in areas that are considered cheating and both got booted out of the quali session for good reason.
Any other line on it and we'll be watching car's do their laps and parking up with a litre sample on the start finish line, so it is a perfectly correct decision from the FIA (regardless of the race it spoils and so on).
Anyway the EXACT SAME incident happened to Hamilton in Canada 2010 which brought in the rule that they have to have enough for the same and to make it back to the pits under their own power in the first place.
Rules are rules, accept it.
Really hope everyone is ok, although by early reports it looks more dramatic than it really was (appologies if Ive misread it)
Well done to Williams, fully deserved, especially with all the pressure Alonso was exerting through out the race - the champagne must taste that bit sweeter after what happened in Aus.
Another disaster for Lewis and JB really (although Lewis had reasonable race pace) . I know they have the same engine, but was concerning how easily Vettel got past Rosberg even though LH couldnt (and JB previous to that), it may have just been R hitting the cliff on his tyres, but I dont think it was that simple
Happy for Lotus too (although I still have a slightly sour taste in my mouth because its ex Benetton/Renault )
Well done to Williams, fully deserved, especially with all the pressure Alonso was exerting through out the race - the champagne must taste that bit sweeter after what happened in Aus.
Another disaster for Lewis and JB really (although Lewis had reasonable race pace) . I know they have the same engine, but was concerning how easily Vettel got past Rosberg even though LH couldnt (and JB previous to that), it may have just been R hitting the cliff on his tyres, but I dont think it was that simple
Happy for Lotus too (although I still have a slightly sour taste in my mouth because its ex Benetton/Renault )
Racecar Engineering story has been updated with more photo's of the aftermath.
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/...red-as-fire-breaks-out-at-spanish-grand-prix/
I'm not sure they're going to have enough time before they have to get to Monaco to sort everything out fully. They've only got just over a week.
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/...red-as-fire-breaks-out-at-spanish-grand-prix/
I'm not sure they're going to have enough time before they have to get to Monaco to sort everything out fully. They've only got just over a week.
Oranges are still not apples. Buemi had illegal fuel throughout the session, so none of his times could be taken into account, Hamilton completely the entire qualifying session fairly except for a single run at the end.
Or, gosh, they could have imposed a penalty proportionate to the offence, such as demoting Hamilton to tenth, as if he'd not taken part in the final session, or simply removed that lap placing him 5th (IIRC). Both would have been just, taken account of what he had actually achieved, and ensured that no advantage was gained from his teams error.
Hope everyone is alright, not the way Williams wanted to spend tonight in place of their celebrations I'm sure.
Did he? how do you know that, it has to be assumed he was underweight for the entire session. According to everyone in F1 the punishment is exclusion. end of. get over it, they knowingly broke the rules. they should have pitted him, I don't believe they didn't know the fuel levels.
Sounds like they could need a Novec fire supression system.
And yes, designing these is my day job
Glad to hear that no-one is seriously injured.
Slightly OT - but is that a Co2 flooding/purge system for use in places where water is best avoided?
I haven't heard of a Novec suppression system before (I am studying Fire Risk Engineering and have to design suppression systems/carry out hand calcs for all sorts of smoke production etc.)
This story has interested me greatly in the safety aspect of these older circuits and the fast moving world of F1 with it's variety of fuels, oil and now KERS battery packs enclosed in small concrete boxes!
They were under fuelled not under weight by the way, i'm not sure if the punishments are the same or not for both but they are different issues
Yes I know that. It's a breach of technical rules which we don't have the rule book for.
I don't know what was said on BBC,but once stewards decided human error was not an acceptable excuse everyone agreed it left them with only one option.
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