Poll: Spanish Grand Prix 2018, Barcelona - Race 5/21

Rate the 2018 Spanish Grand Prix out of ten


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Just me hoping for a six car pile up at the first corner, so the rest of the pack can race for the win? All of the utter ******** surrounding Merc/Ferrari from their fans is tiring. Max to cause the crash too as in sick of his on track behaviour.

I know F1 has never been about the overtake count (although it gets critised heavily for it now), but even though the top 3 are close, they can't stick close together thanks to the incredibly complex aero. So to make sure they get past, they need a big enough advantage or you can get the RB scenario from Baku, or just a train.
 
But yeh it’s clearly all a conspiracy against Ferrari because FIA, Liberty Media etc don’t want their biggest brand winning titles. The absolute state of some people.

Take a peek into some other threads, ones that are not just F1 related, and you'll probably find the same people posting equally hilarious conspiracies on whatever matter it is being discussed. If you're bored, it makes for some entertainment.

Hoping for a good race today. Hopefully racing at the front right until the end. I fear Mercedes will already have their **** in a sock now though and dominate the rest of the season.
 
I fear Mercedes will already have their **** in a sock now though and dominate the rest of the season.
I'm not so sure you know. I think what we are seeing here is Merc on a track that suits their car, I dont think they have fully gotten on top of the tyre issues yet. I dont think they are miles from getting on top of it, I suspect the last half of the season to resume normal order.
 
The most challenging braking point during the #SpanishGP ️ qualifying sessions was at turn 10. The cars with #Brembo brakes subjected the drivers to 5.2 G of deceleration, necessary to brake from 191 mph to 53 mph in just 2.32 seconds. Who will use their #brakes best in tomorrow's race?

Saw this post from Brembo. Quite staggering numbers. 2 seconds, crazy.
 
The decision to change them for three races (yes they are only being used for three out of 20 races...) was made towards the end of the second pre season test before the F1 season had even started. The design was built with feedback from all the teams, drivers and FIA

And what was the feedback from all the teams?

 
And what was the feedback from all the teams?


That they blistered from overheating. People are being insane about this, RBR and Ferrari put more heat into their tires, it's why they out qualified Mercedes anywhere heat into tires was an issue last year, Singapore, Mexico, etc. This also showed up in was it 2015 I think in Singapore and a couple other places.

Merc run cool tires, it's why they mostly go longer, Bahrain was a fluke and unintentional, a mix of strategies guys getting hit in pitstops ruining Vettel's second stop window. Merc were going easy to have tire life to defend from Vettel coming from behind on fast tires and took too long to push after a Vettel hanging out a one stop. Bottas's pace was slow, Hamilton gained an extra 7-8 seconds on that same stint catching Vettel then Bottas couldn't overtake and Vettel was going 3 seconds off the pace in the final few laps. Anyone can go that long and be slow, if the guy behind has poor pace and simply didn't push hard on his tires that's how you end up turning that into a win rather than losing places. Merc intended a one stop, Ferrari intended a two and got very lucky with race situation. Without the 5 place grid penalty Ham wins that race easily.

Merc run cooler tires, less good for qualifying, better for tire wear, Ferrari run hotter, way better for qualifying, less good for tire wear.

Yesterday the supersofts... the fixed to overheat less supersofts.... overheated so much on Ferrari and RBR that they couldn't do a full lap without them falling apart. But people think Mercedes cheated by getting them changed. If the original supersofts were used then what do people think would happen, Ferrari and RBR would have magically done much better laps on even worse overheating tires?

The slightly less overheating tires can't even last one lap in qualifying making them nearly useless, they'll be poor in the race, it was obviously entirely necessary as bringing a third tire type that is worthless for qualifying and the race would have been pointless.


Preseason tests are done, Pirelli get feedback and physically test all tires used. Merc didn't just spin up the tires, create blisters or lie about blisters as an excuse to beg Pirelli to change the tires a couple months later when they aren't dominating to gain an advantage. Pirelli decided based on all their information that a supersoft that overheats less is going to be a better choice for a few tracks where normal supersoft wouldn't cut it, where ultras and hards wouldn't make sense and they needed a third tire. That's the whole thing, it's got nothing to do with Merc trying to gain an advantage, this isn't a permanent thing, this is about Pirelli looking at how hot the tires ran in those conditions and comparing it to their data set for all tracks and saying at these three tracks we don't have a third choice of tire that fits the windows and a overheating less supersoft is the only alternative.
 
Why does anyone bother replying to stig? Everything's a conspiracy, everyone's against Ferrari, v6 era sucks, rinse and repeat. Just don't entertain it.

I fancy today's going to be close but it's not an easy overtaking track. Hamilton, Vettel, Bottas in a queue to the finish.
 
Why does anyone bother replying to stig? Everything's a conspiracy, everyone's against Ferrari, v6 era sucks, rinse and repeat. Just don't entertain it.
:p Its still amusing to me that people take what he says seriously. I've had him on ignore for a long long time, keeps my blood pressure down!:D
 
Why does anyone bother replying to stig? Everything's a conspiracy, everyone's against Ferrari, v6 era sucks, rinse and repeat. Just don't entertain it.

I fancy today's going to be close but it's not an easy overtaking track. Hamilton, Vettel, Bottas in a queue to the finish.

@4K8KW10 said everyone's against Ferrari, not me :rolleyes:
 
Why does anyone bother replying to stig? Everything's a conspiracy, everyone's against Ferrari, v6 era sucks, rinse and repeat unless Ferrari win then it is the best thing ever. Just don't entertain it.

I fancy today's going to be close but it's not an easy overtaking track. Hamilton, Vettel, Bottas in a queue to the finish.

Fixed that for you ;) :D
 
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