Spank.....guess the damage.

Joshy · 17 Mar 2011 at 17:51

Are people genuinely having a ago at fathers for wanting to provide for their kids?. Seriously?

I'm genuinely struggling to think of a single thing more important to do in this life than giving your kids the best possible life. Not a single thing.

hurfdurf · 17 Mar 2011 at 17:57

Joshy said:
Are people genuinely having a ago at fathers for wanting to provide for their kids?. Seriously?

I'm genuinely struggling to think of a single thing more important to do in this life than giving your kids the best possible life. Not a single thing.

I don't think anyone has done this.

mrk · 17 Mar 2011 at 17:59

And if they have, they're just jelly.

Housey · 17 Mar 2011 at 18:01

Will Gill said:
are you a seagull?

Prefer battered sausage to be honest but I'll try some gull.

ryanpetit · 17 Mar 2011 at 20:18

IvanDobskey said:
I don't know any 18 year olds that have a nearly brand new Audi TT personally. I know plenty young drivers with corsa's etc though. Let's face it, a TT is not your average first car. Most people start off with a shed to learn in and work their way up.

But can you honestly say you would not give your kid a better start in life if you were able to?

IvanDobskey · 17 Mar 2011 at 20:58

I'd rather spend the money on better schooling or something. An Audi TT is wasted on an 18 year old. It'll be a wreck within a year or two.

Will Gill · 17 Mar 2011 at 21:06

IvanDobskey said:
I'd rather spend the money on better schooling or something. An Audi TT is wasted on an 18 year old. It'll be a wreck within a year or two.

That's a given, trust me mark's kids want for nothing, I'd stop finding better places to invest and just accept the gift

jfp · 17 Mar 2011 at 23:27

lol I feel that a TT is maybe a tad excessive for a first car... but if you an afford it then why not? as long as they don't end up thoroughly spoilt at the end of the day then there is no harm in it.

hurfdurf · 18 Mar 2011 at 04:46

Will Gill said:
That's a given, trust me mark's kids want for nothing, I'd stop finding better places to invest and just accept the gift

Wanting for nothing isn't a good thing for a child.

IvanDobskey · 18 Mar 2011 at 09:30

There are too many spoilt kids who don't know the value of working hard for things in this country. I've had to work hard to afford my z4 and that makes me all the more proud to own it. I know that if I work even harder then I can buy an even better car in the future.

Will Gill · 18 Mar 2011 at 09:42

hurfdurf said:
Wanting for nothing isn't a good thing for a child.

Within reason it never hurt me, I appreciate I wanted Porsche's and Ferraris but settling for then equivalent to a TT made me happy enough

Cuchulain · 18 Mar 2011 at 09:43

If I had the money, I'd spoil my kids rotten too. All this guff about teaching them the value of hard work is nonsense and only applies if they actually need to work.

Will Gill · 18 Mar 2011 at 09:44

Cuchulain said:
If I had the money, I'd spoil my kids rotten too. All this guff about teaching them the value of hard work is nonsense and only applies if they actually need to work.

amen

Von Luck · 18 Mar 2011 at 10:20

Cuchulain said:
If I had the money, I'd spoil my kids rotten too. All this guff about teaching them the value of hard work is nonsense and only applies if they actually need to work.

There's a fine line between giving them a great upbringing and spoiling them to the point where they have no concept of the value of items or of having to work to earn something. Give them what they need, not what they want.

lordrobs · 18 Mar 2011 at 10:34

Cuchulain said:
If I had the money, I'd spoil my kids rotten too. All this guff about teaching them the value of hard work is nonsense and only applies if they actually need to work.

I don't have kids which probably makes my opinion void but I completely disagree.

It isn't just the well off families though. My cousins (the bunch of wasters that they are) are in the same boat and that side of the family is far from being well off.

They have been brought up with the knowledge that if they go to our grand parents with their hand stretched out and ask for a ton they'll walk away with a hundred and fifty. What have they achieved? FA. One has just quit his job driving a septic tank truck, the other bounces around various security jobs before getting the sack because he can't be bothered to turn up for work one night. Oh and the third simply waits for the state to pay him every fortnight.

I on the other hand wouldn't even dream of asking and was brought up with a slightly odd mix of being spoilt rotten as an only child but also being taught the value of a pound.

As such I haven't asked anything of anyone from the age of 12 when I got my first jobs (cutting grass, washing cars etc.) and genuinely feel proud of that every time my cousins come down to "see the grandparents" and go away with an envelope stuffed with twenties.

Anyway horses for courses and this is just my rant on how I view things. If/when I have kids I sure as hell wouldn't see them struggle but I wouldn't hand life to them on a silver platter either.

IvanDobskey · 18 Mar 2011 at 10:40

Von Luck said:
There's a fine line between giving them a great upbringing and spoiling them to the point where they have no concept of the value of items or of having to work to earn something. Give them what they need, not what they want.

Nail on the head there. People should only buy treats of any magnitude for their kids when they achieve something deserving of it. Just saying you need a car so here's an Audi TT is not healthy parenting in my opinion.

Luseac · 18 Mar 2011 at 10:48

Didn't you guys hear? Every dad does it and wanting to give your kids 'the best possible life' means buyng them a TT.

Will Gill · 18 Mar 2011 at 11:26

Luseac said:
Didn't you guys hear? Every dad does it and wanting to give your kids 'the best possible life' means buyng them a TT.

I have no words

(apart from those four and these seven)

Housey · 18 Mar 2011 at 11:30

I suggest those poeple making judgements on the mans spending habbits are not walking in his shoes. Perspective can change with circumstance and what to you lot who are making judegements, something you are free to do of course, but to you a TT might seem like an extravagance to another it might seem like sofa change.

Cuchulain · 18 Mar 2011 at 11:44

Von Luck said:
There's a fine line between giving them a great upbringing and spoiling them to the point where they have no concept of the value of items or of having to work to earn something. Give them what they need, not what they want.

for 99.9% of the population, including me, that's fine. I'll gladly teach my children the moral value of working for a living because I can't afford to provide for them in such a luxurious and selfless fashion.

However, I know I'd spoil them rotten if I had the means to do it, they'd still be well disciplined and well raised kids, they'd just not want for anything.