Spec me a CCTV System

[DR_Pingu]

4K UHD HIKVISION DS-2CD2085FWD-I (4mm) 8MP or

DS-2CD2035FWD-I 3 MP (4mm) Ultra-Low Light

Regarding the 3MP camera, would anyone know approximately how long it'd take to max out a 128GB memory card at full resolution 30fps as I can't seem to find the info/an estimate. Also, does anybody also know if you can set it to roll record, i.e. constantly overwrite previous recording once full?

I'm tempted to budget for ~£150 camera. I feel the need to get one as my year just keeps on improving - the latest spat of **** being threats to myself/where I live and my car, because apparently that's what adults do! So I'm looking to get myself and easy route to the police should something happen. Only need one camera.

All I've looked at so far is the 3MP HIKVISION stated above, and around on generic sites. Not clued up at all on this, I just want something that's easy to setup/install, has local storage, and potential ability to be monitored by my phone. Night vision 10m upwards is needed.

[edit] Oh and something that'd be more beneficial than anything would be a wireless camera, as I don't have any sockets in my bathroom which is where the camera is going to be outside of!

[edit 2] Also, just done some quick calculations using their spec sheet, I think at max res and whatnot it'd be approx. 18-19hrs at 128GB.

Max video Bit rate 16Mbps = 16777216 bits
Storage 128GB = 1099511627776 bits

128GB / 16Mb = 65536 seconds
65536 / 60 = ~1092 minutes
1092 / 60 = 18.2 hours

Unless I'm just having a really bad day and that's completely wrong...

Cheers folks.

 

[DR_Pingu]

EZVIZ EZ-C3S-WIFI 2MP Bullet Camera Indoor and Outdoor Use looks alright for the cost.

 

[azibux1]

EZVIZ EZ-C3S-WIFI 2MP Bullet Camera Indoor and Outdoor Use looks alright for the cost.

Hmm personally a decent wired 4MP Hikvision can be had for about £110-£120.

I've heard of them and know they're good quality, but unfortunately never heard of EZVIZ before

 

[Psycho Sonny]

Novice in this world so hope someone can point in the right direction. We're wanting to get some CCTV cameras up on our house, possibly looking for a kit of 4 cameras plus NVR. The plan is to put a camera on each corner of the house (below the roof/guttering) then run the cables to my office which is at the back of the house. Dome cameras in black/grey would be preferred. Would also like to be able to remote view the cameras and have the best quality we can for money. Are there any go-to kits which fit these requirements? Not sure on what a good budget would be, would £1k suffice or should we look higher?

if anyone with half a brain was to break into your house. what is to stop them from just stealing the NVR? or at least taking a hammer to it?

i think the only way to get around this would be having the NVR in the attic

 

[azibux1]

if anyone with half a brain was to break into your house. what is to stop them from just stealing the NVR? or at least taking a hammer to it?

i think the only way to get around this would be having the NVR in the attic

It's at the back of the house and they'd have to find it? I'm sure that's the last thing on their mind when they just want to get in and out as quick as possible.

If they had that half a brain they'd just cover their faces to make the CCTV a bit pointless anyway lol

 

[Dynix]

if anyone with half a brain was to break into your house. what is to stop them from just stealing the NVR? or at least taking a hammer to it?

i think the only way to get around this would be having the NVR in the attic

Office is at the back of the house on the first floor and I'm sure the NVR could fit nicely on a shelf in a cupboard next to the switch. We essentially have no attic as it's a three storey house, so it's either the office or garage - second floor is the master bedroom and I've only ran ethernet as far as my office. If any NVRs support backup to cloud storage then I have unlimited space on Google Drive which could be used as well.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

Office is at the back of the house on the first floor and I'm sure the NVR could fit nicely on a shelf in a cupboard next to the switch. We essentially have no attic as it's a three storey house, so it's either the office or garage - second floor is the master bedroom and I've only ran ethernet as far as my office. If any NVRs support backup to cloud storage then I have unlimited space on Google Drive which could be used as well.

any cloud storage feature I have ever seen usually requires a monthly or yearly subscription.

It's at the back of the house and they'd have to find it? I'm sure that's the last thing on their mind when they just want to get in and out as quick as possible.

If they had that half a brain they'd just cover their faces to make the CCTV a bit pointless anyway lol

would be easy to track down. i mean it would be the thing with the 4 ethernet cables and a monitor plugged into it showing the view of the cameras. i will at some point get cctv i'm just wary of the installation costs (running ethernet through walls, etc) and keeping the NVR safe.

 

[welshdragon]

Can anyone recommend a stick up wifi cctv camera that will integrate into my qnap surveillance station? My qnap has three ip cam's around the house connected via cat 6 that are poe. Quite like the idea of a stick up wifi cam like say the nest that integrates with the nas rather than a paid cloud solution.

 

[pallys]

Hi,

Car got broken into....so need CCTV as a deterrent.

Read the last 30 pages and Hikvision turret seems recommended for night vision which is most likely time od day whem it'll happen again.

Only need 1 to begin with to cover front door and drive way then increasing to 4 over time if need be.

The Hikvision 2342 model seems popular but should I be buying the new models like the 2355?

Also how do I get to display on TV for live streaming at front door as wife wants to know whose at front door for security reasons before we open it (currently cant tell)?

NVR or NAS? or even Raspberry Pi?

Thanks.

 

[Mike1983]

Hi

I have a system comprising of the new Hikvision 2385 cameras and DS-7716NI-I4/16P NVR, these have the ability to record using H.265 and H.265+ which I presume the latter is Hikvision proprietary codec.

The files prodcued by the NVR either using standard H.265 or H.265+ can be played on the Hikvision VS PLayer software but cannot be played using VLC (latest version) or Windows Media Player.

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to get this working using more standard software? Tried to donwload a converter from the Hikvision site but it was in Chinese....

Thank you

 

[welshdragon]

Could you use something like Handbrake to convert it?

 

[azibux1]

Hi,

Car got broken into....so need CCTV as a deterrent.

Read the last 30 pages and Hikvision turret seems recommended for night vision which is most likely time od day whem it'll happen again.

Only need 1 to begin with to cover front door and drive way then increasing to 4 over time if need be.

The Hikvision 2342 model seems popular but should I be buying the new models like the 2355?

Also how do I get to display on TV for live streaming at front door as wife wants to know whose at front door for security reasons before we open it (currently cant tell)?

NVR or NAS? or even Raspberry Pi?

Thanks.

You saw the recent posts about Hikvision stopping companies selling to end users, and making it trade only?

Hikvision is great! But personally I'm not too keen on investing into a brand that is soon going to become hard to obtain.

Therefore I'm waiting for use-ip to complete testing of a new manufacturer's range (next couple of weeks) that is similarly priced and hopefully similar performance to Hikvision - and probably invest into that instead.

Up to you of course just wanted to make sure you had the information.

 

[pinkpound]

You saw the recent posts about Hikvision stopping companies selling to end users, and making it trade only?

Hikvision is great! But personally I'm not too keen on investing into a brand that is soon going to become hard to obtain.

Therefore I'm waiting for use-ip to complete testing of a new manufacturer's range (next couple of weeks) that is similarly priced and hopefully similar performance to Hikvision - and probably invest into that instead.

Up to you of course just wanted to make sure you had the information.

This is good advice I was about to order some HK cameras with them going trade only there will be no end user support think I will wait

 

[Dynix]

Are you looking to install it your self? If you are then its within budget for a decent NVR 4TB harddrive, 4 POE cameras and a roll of network cable.

Spent the last couple of days looking into various cameras and think I've decided on 4x Hikvision DS-2CD2385FWD-I. Only issues is that they are white (has anyone used something like plastidip to change the colour?) and the 'recent' news of Hikvision pulling products for end-users. Now in two minds as to wait for use-ip to find their 'best alternative' or just go for it as they can still be sourced on eBay for the time being.

Some of the cameras seem to be powered by "DC12V & PoE". Does this mean they need both power sources or just PoE if it's available?

I've estimated I'll need 20-25m of ethernet for two of the cameras. The other two should be fine with 10m or less. Will this be an issue for PoE?

The only thing I've yet to decide on / look at is an NVR for the cameras.

 

[azibux1]

This is good advice I was about to order some HK cameras with them going trade only there will be no end user support think I will wait

Yup I'd maybe only consider it if you already have some.

If like me it's a new installation, then I think it's best to wait for something else.

Keen to see what use-ip offer. They mentioned testing Samsung Q series (I believe) but told me they're a bit naff in comparison and the X series are good but expensive (about double the price of the equivalent Hikvision).

 

[pallys]

You saw the recent posts about Hikvision stopping companies selling to end users, and making it trade only?

Hikvision is great! But personally I'm not too keen on investing into a brand that is soon going to become hard to obtain.

Therefore I'm waiting for use-ip to complete testing of a new manufacturer's range (next couple of weeks) that is similarly priced and hopefully similar performance to Hikvision - and probably invest into that instead.

Up to you of course just wanted to make sure you had the information.

Yep thanks for the reminder. I'm assuming cctv stuff just works and you leave it alone after setup.
Who is this new manufacturer?

 

[azibux1]

Yep thanks for the reminder. I'm assuming cctv stuff just works and you leave it alone after setup.
Who is this new manufacturer?

It works yeah... Until it could fail like any electronics I think they legally will provide support for people who bought them while they were on the old system... But firmware updates etc might be tricky to obtain

No idea on the new manufacturer, they couldn't say who yet

 

[welshdragon]

Can anyone recommend a stick up wifi cctv camera that will integrate into my qnap surveillance station? My qnap has three ip cam's around the house connected via cat 6 that are poe. Quite like the idea of a stick up wifi cam like say the nest that integrates with the nas rather than a paid cloud solution.

What are peoples thoughts on Foscam? Seems to do what I want....

 

[Dynix]

Spent the last couple of days looking into various cameras and think I've decided on 4x Hikvision DS-2CD2385FWD-I. Only issues is that they are white (has anyone used something like plastidip to change the colour?) and the 'recent' news of Hikvision pulling products for end-users. Now in two minds as to wait for use-ip to find their 'best alternative' or just go for it as they can still be sourced on eBay for the time being.

Some of the cameras seem to be powered by "DC12V & PoE". Does this mean they need both power sources or just PoE if it's available?

I've estimated I'll need 20-25m of ethernet for two of the cameras. The other two should be fine with 10m or less. Will this be an issue for PoE?

The only thing I've yet to decide on / look at is an NVR for the cameras.

Decided to bite the bullet and just go for the Hikvision ones above and found a suitable NVR to go with it. Just need to buy a HDD to whack in it, buy a reel of outdoor ethernet and figure out the best way to run the cables for the camera positions. Would love to hide the cables but easiest will be to clip them onto brick.

 

[Brozart]

You saw the recent posts about Hikvision stopping companies selling to end users, and making it trade only?

Hikvision is great! But personally I'm not too keen on investing into a brand that is soon going to become hard to obtain.

Therefore I'm waiting for use-ip to complete testing of a new manufacturer's range (next couple of weeks) that is similarly priced and hopefully similar performance to Hikvision - and probably invest into that instead.

Up to you of course just wanted to make sure you had the information.

I wouldn't worry about the trade only statement from use-ip, in reality once the cameras are installed and working I don't see the benefit of going for a UK supplier. You may have a 3 year warranty and some hand holding support but you do pay a premium for it and I'm yet to see a Hikvision camera fail on me. I've started going through reputable resellers on ali and so far the only inconvenience I've had is waiting a couple of weeks for them to arrive. The only time I would be reluctant to go through Ali is on the higher end PTZ cameras, they cost more £££ and have more moving parts which could fail.

Has anyone considered the move to Dahua cameras? I really like the look of the Dahua 2MP Starlight IPC-HDW5231R-Z camera - motorised lens and excellent low light performance. It's just a shame their mobile app isn't as polished as Hikvison's offering yet...