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There is something in that definitely. Having somewhere to drive fast and get it out your system does mean that you chill out more under normal driving.
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There is something in that definitely. Having somewhere to drive fast and get it out your system does mean that you chill out more under normal driving.
Hopefully not speaking too soon but the police around here aren't too bad for speed - allow 10% + 3 on most roads, don't normally pursue below 86MPH on dual/motorway unless there are other reasons but on the flip side come down hard above that - better not have a bald tyre or illegal mods, etc. etc. (one guy got stopped for 95 MPH in one of their recent sprees and they managed to tack on another dozen offences).
Soldato
Bad luck Housey. Hope it’s just a course.
I think I need cruise control retrofitted on the 911. Would just take any stress out of these situations, especially if I do any long distance road trips in the future. The speed at which you can get to licence losing speeds is crazy, and I’m nowhere near the fastest machine on the road. There’s no skill in squeezing the loud pedal in a straight line, enjoying the winding B roads with the roof down is what it’s all about... but you have to drive along motorways to get to those. The thing with the UK is that speed limits haven’t changed since my Dad was razzing around in his Austin Healey Sprite in the 70’s. Driving that around today and you can understand fully why the speeds limits are set as they are. Something like that also let’s you really enjoy the journey as you feel very connected to the road.
Sadly I’m increasingly liking our Sportage. It’s not fast or rewarding to drive, but it’s so easy and I’m not likely to get a ticket by getting a slight itch in my right foot.
I think I need cruise control retrofitted on the 911. Would just take any stress out of these situations, especially if I do any long distance road trips in the future. The speed at which you can get to licence losing speeds is crazy, and I’m nowhere near the fastest machine on the road. There’s no skill in squeezing the loud pedal in a straight line, enjoying the winding B roads with the roof down is what it’s all about... but you have to drive along motorways to get to those. The thing with the UK is that speed limits haven’t changed since my Dad was razzing around in his Austin Healey Sprite in the 70’s. Driving that around today and you can understand fully why the speeds limits are set as they are. Something like that also let’s you really enjoy the journey as you feel very connected to the road.
Sadly I’m increasingly liking our Sportage. It’s not fast or rewarding to drive, but it’s so easy and I’m not likely to get a ticket by getting a slight itch in my right foot.
I was thinking about this earlier. I like to make good progress where possible but generally within the limits (officer!), however I do get annoyed with people doing 50 in a 60 as often happens.
With the new ridiculous dash cam culture, I often feel like the idiot who can’t drive properly is going to report me to the police for overtaking them... not that they can do much really...? Anyone else? People often look unhappy being overtaken
With the new ridiculous dash cam culture, I often feel like the idiot who can’t drive properly is going to report me to the police for overtaking them... not that they can do much really...? Anyone else? People often look unhappy being overtaken
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Unfortunately places like the Evo triangle and Cat and Fiddle have been ruined by our friends on 2 wheels. The number of serious and fatal accidents on these roads are so disproportionate to motorcyclists that of course the public authorities have to do something. And I can't blame them for that, it's that ****s that think they're setting new records on the Isle of Man TT who are to blame. 70% of the 264 fatalities were motorcyclists from 2001-2011, the vast majority single vehicle.
I agree on this. Dual carriageways/motorways are such safe roads that it feels ridiculous to have to get tickets for doing mildly over the speed limit. But camera vans in particular sit on these roads simply because they catch a lot more people because people can't flash each other as easily.
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This happens a lot - parish councils are the worst for it. You see it on local Facebook pages whenever there has been a report of a crash in the area. Every Karen comes out of the woodwork about how the speedlimit should be reduced and how it's an accident waiting to happen. And often I will know exactly what has happened or even have been to the collision and 95% of the time it has nothing to do with speed. Most of the time it has to do with alcohol or drugs/old people having medical episodes whilst they're driving/people overtaking in the most mind-bendingly stupid locations/HGV's somehow managing to pile into one another or off the road and finally - people committing suicide in front of cars and lorries.
Another thing that is making it worse is the "Community Speedwatch" people. My girlfriend got "caught" by one a few months back whilst I was in the car. Knowing the area well, I told her to do 30mph as we were approaching a site where the speedwatch people sit. Low and behold, as we rounded the corner - there they were. So we carry on passed doing 30mph (which I can verify because I categorically remember looking at her speedometer). Anyway, 2 weeks go by and she gets a letter from the local Constabulary saying she was caught doing 38mph on the day in question! This would mean she'd need to have been doing an indicated 40-42mph which was hilarious. I was really ****** off with this as it completely wasn't true. I came to the conclusion that these speedwatch people are free to make up the numbers they want to put down. A lot of them are "passionate" about people speeding through their village and a lot of the time this "Community Speedwatch" data is presented to the police as justification for speed cameras and camera van locations. Basically, I have no doubt they falsify the numbers they write down and justify it by telling themselves it's for the greater good.
For sure, and can usually tell which of the speed limits that have come about from local
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I did the Evo triangle in my NC MX5 and even giving it the beans I barely made it out of the NSL. One of those times where having limited power was actually a plus.
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I live near the Cat & Fiddle, I drove it the other weekend.
Whilst I do agree with what you are saying I would also like to add that the Welsh and Scottish aren’t keen on rich boys using there toys irresponsibly on there roads for ****s & giggles.
Which is why I suspect the Welsh police has got its reputation.
No if someone wants to do 50 in a 60 I'll just sit behind them at 50. What's the rush?I was thinking about this earlier. I like to make good progress where possible but generally within the limits (officer!), however I do get annoyed with people doing 50 in a 60 as often happens.
With the new ridiculous dash cam culture, I often feel like the idiot who can’t drive properly is going to report me to the police for overtaking them... not that they can do much really...? Anyone else? People often look unhappy being overtaken
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Interestingly a friend of ours was stopped driving through Wales in his camper van.
He was caught doing 60mph in a 60 zone.
The officer assumed incorrectly that the speed limit for a camper van was the same as a similar goods van 50mph single carriage way (it isn’t).
He was caught doing 60mph in a 60 zone.
The officer assumed incorrectly that the speed limit for a camper van was the same as a similar goods van 50mph single carriage way (it isn’t).
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Bugs the hell out of me too.
To make it worse they usually go really slowly around corners then accelerate on the straights so you have less chance of being able to overtake safely.
Soldato
North Wales Police have been notorious for monitoring speeding aggressively for a long time. I suspect you also tripped over a bigger push than normal with restrictions in Wales being lifted a week earlier than England. They don't want to be dealing with a mass overload of tourists causing problems such as parking like dicks on the approaches to Snowden last year.
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Same, was boring but better than the 4 hours in a classroom
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Assuming the road is clear, it's dry and it's safe to do 60 - would you sit behind them doing 30 in a 60?
I'm sorry, but my experience is that a LOT of people who do 40 in a 60 and similar are just poor drivers. They don't see hazards about to develop and everything that happens ahead of them is a surprise because of this, which causes overreactions like swerving and excessive breaking. They do 40 in the 60 then carry on doing 40 through the 30's. They comfort brake at every corner. They make erractic and unexpected manoeuvres . And them doing 40 in a 60 is again another symptom of their poor driving, because they know they are a crap driver.
I will frequently overtake people doing below the speed limit for no reason because I can do so quickly, easily and safely.
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50 in a 60 is about my limit for tolerable. Any lower and I'm looking to overtake. You can often tell the type of driver on slipways too, as there's one near me which you take in any car at 40, but some people brake so I know they will be the ones going slow. 99% of the time I'm right. I like to think of it as a useful life skill.
We have a blanket 20mph limit in towns and villages in my county now. It's actually difficult to do 20 tbh, it feels like the car isn't happy in third and second feels too high in revs. It seems happier at 25, but I still see people not even braking from the 50 limit before it.
I think it's actually detrimental to improving your driving skills if you spend half you time looking at the speedo and trusting the limit signs instead of actually looking where you are going and sensibly navigating the road ahead. People spend so much time afraid of getting points/fines, staying under the camera limit is all they focus on instead of safe driving.
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Coming back from Scotland last year G/F driving my Z4 on the M6, the average speed of other drivers was 80mph+
She’s trying to pass HGVs without going over 70.
In the end I told her to ignore the speedo and just go with the flow of traffic which is obviously the safer option.
I'm just explaining the situation, nobody is getting blamed (other than the police it seems) from what I can see (my use of 'you' wasn't directed at anyone, it was a made up 50+10 scenario...) and I don't think anyone is here saying the police shouldn't pursue other crimes, but we can still try to explain why they not be. Additionally, just because we feel other crimes should be pursued, that doesn't make speeding acceptable.
Speeding is an easy target and I'm saying that makes sense to me because it must be easy to get the prosecutions or whatever, we can malign this all we want but I guess there are plenty of situations where it's difficult to prove crime so you target the low-hanging fruit (and the most serious of crimes) and then if you've got resources left over for the crimes in the middle, great. Again for the avoidance of doubt I'm not saying this this is the ideal scenario I'm just highlighting how it probably plays out.
Finally if speeding was totally ignored we'd doubtless have more speeding and inevitably more serious accidents and/or 'escalating' road crime where [some] people move on from speeding to other types of dangerous road offences endangering the public.
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