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Nor said:
Agree with you. Scotland has a significant problem with anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism. If anything good can come of these recent events it's that maybe the powers that be will start to take real steps to tackle it. I love Scotland, it's a wonderful country at its best, but we have a dirty little secret and it's time that we stopped hiding from it.

Back to the football, was a good win for Celtic tonight. Looks like whoever wins the match on Sunday will be huge favourites for the title. I still think Rangers are favourites.
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Irish Independent journalist Ian O'Doherty 'Indeed, if they (Celtic) had a winger who was as quick to the byline as they are to take offence then they'd win the Champions League every year.

One example of Celtic's myopia came a few months back with a rather amusing Rangers song with the lines: "The famine's over, why don't you go home."

This enraged the Celtic fans, who said it was racist, but they missed a rather salient point -- when you're standing on a Scottish terrace with an Irish flag in your hand, you can hardly get ****y when people comment on it.'
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anti irish bigotry haha, they are as scottish as me, infact odds on i have more irish blood than a lot of them , which asks the question, which part of ireland is glasgow in nor?
 
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If you're an advocate of the famine song then that's a poor state of affairs. What I hope is that the recent disgraceful incidents act as a catalyst for real change in Scotland when it comes to religious and racial intolerance.
 
Nor said:
If you're an advocate of the famine song then that's a poor state of affairs. What I hope is that the recent disgraceful incidents act as a catalyst for real change in Scotland when it comes to religious and racial intolerance.
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You want to create an integrated society but you partition it from an early age? lets not arse about here if we realy want change.

back on track ,looks like we are set for a cracker of a game on sunday which i hope is trouble free, it being a christian holiday after all.
 
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Fletch is forgetting that the Orange Order is in-itself, a sectarian organisation. My uncle was blackballed from the Orange Order for daring to attend my First Communion and funnily enough, he was also blackballed from the Masons a week later. How both claim to be all-encompassing to all faiths amazes me and the only organisation I know of that genuinely believes in such tenets is Celtic.

While Fletch also claims to be more Irish than most, I can also claim my family have done more to aid Scotland than most or does taking part in three Jacobite Wars not count? The famine had yet to blight Ireland when my ancestors settled here in the vain hope of escaping religious persecution. Fletch also forgets why Catholic schools came into being in the first place and also forgets that there are Catholic schools all over the UK and it only appears to attract problems in the west of Scotland.

Anyhoo, Celtic cruise to an easy 4-0 victory over Kilmarnock. No dodgy decisions or fake penalty claims required.
 
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lordfletch said:
You want to create an integrated society but you partition it from an early age? lets not arse about here if we realy want change. back on track looks like we are set for a cracker of a game on sunday which i hope is trouble free, it being a christian holiday after all.
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The solution to intolerance is not to remove the differences between people. It's for people to learn to accept and respect those who are different.
 
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heres an example , shouting FTQ, which doesnt bother me but is none the less sectarian.singing about dirty orange *******, you have to be from the reformed christain denominations to be a member of the orange order , again sectarian and again i can take it, but sectarian.
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Whether you can 'take it' or not is irrelevant. It's wrong. Just because you aren't out making bombs or kicking heads in, doesn't mean it hasn't an effect on other people in society.

How is it sectarian? The monarchy is not a religion and people in this country are free to criticise or disagree with it. Just because you don't like it, does not make it sectarian.

The powers that be at Celtic Park agree with you on DOB which is why if anyone were daft enough to shout that nowadays they are removed and banned as has been the case for a number of years now. I go every week and couldn't tell you the last time I heard it so hope that clears that up for you. Hopefully you can tell your friends that Celtic fans aren't sectarian like you believed.
 
Plenty of posts in this thread now that have no reason to be in here going by the threads rules. I await a mod removing them. As stated earlier in the thrad if you want to debate sectarianism and I would add glorification of terrorists then it should be done so in Speakers Corner not a football thread.
 
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Whether you can 'take it' or not is irrelevant. It's wrong. Just because you aren't out making bombs or kicking heads in, doesn't mean it hasn't an effect on other people in society.

How is it sectarian? The monarchy is not a religion and people in this country are free to criticise or disagree with it. Just because you don't like it, does not make it sectarian.

The powers that be at Celtic Park agree with you on DOB which is why if anyone were daft enough to shout that nowadays they are removed and banned as has been the case for a number of years now. I go every week and couldn't tell you the last time I heard it so hope that clears that up for you. Hopefully you can tell your friends that Celtic fans aren't sectarian like you believed.
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the queen is the head of the church of england , you could use the same argument about the pope and the vatican being a sovergn state but its just as ridicules as the agument that the songs that glorify the murder of innocent people from the country that you live in are political. (or any other country for that matter) to claim to be deeply offended by a few words yet try and defend the glorification of pure blood murder from any terrorist group takes some doing, yet two people on here repeatedly do it.
 
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McMav said:
Plenty of posts in this thread now that have no reason to be in here going by the threads rules. I await a mod removing them. As stated earlier in the thread if you want to debate sectarianism and I would add glorification of terrorists then it should be done so in Speakers Corner not a football thread.
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i feel i i have to speak up mcmav , ive tried to keep out of it but when people on here act offended by what some rangers fans sing , claim we are bombers as a group without any evidence and then try to defend the singing of song that glorify murder and yes the murder of children , i find that hard to stomach. they are offended by a few words but not the murder of innocents, its relay beyond belief , im in no way trying to make out that two wrongs make a right they clearly don't ,im just pointing out sectarianism in all its guises is not just confined to rangers fans in scotland. anyway respect mate , fletch.
 
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I'm not picking on you or anyone LF I know why you are saying what you are saying and I know why others are saying what they are saying. All I'm saying (lot of saying there) is that this is not the thread for ANY of it. I have toned down my posting in fact I can rarely be bothered with this thread now but many of the same faces can clearly not tone their posting down.
 
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I'm not picking on you or anyone LF I know why you are saying what you are saying and I know why others are saying what they are saying. All I'm saying (lot of saying there) is that this is not the thread for ANY of it. I have toned down my posting in fact I can rarely be bothered with this thread now but many of the same faces can clearly not tone their posting down.
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they will tone it down one way or another :p
 
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