Split Air con

I have had a guy come in to provide a quote for 4 rooms. He reckons I would be better off with individual split units as these can be connected to a socket ring main. If I have a single external condenser for the 4 internal units, then I will need an armored cable connecting to the Consumer unit. I would also require a new consumer unit as there are no spare points. Then the issue with channelling the wall down from the loft through a bedroom to the CU which I dont fancy having to repair.

The units proposed are Midea easybreeze, 3 * 3.5kw and a single 2.5Kw. Has any had experience with this brand?

Im end terrace so condensors would be on this wall, would 4 external condensers be noisy?
 
Bazzards said:
I have had a guy come in to provide a quote for 4 rooms. He reckons I would be better off with individual split units as these can be connected to a socket ring main. If I have a single external condenser for the 4 internal units, then I will need an armored cable connecting to the Consumer unit. I would also require a new consumer unit as there are no spare points. Then the issue with channelling the wall down from the loft through a bedroom to the CU which I dont fancy having to repair.

The units proposed are Midea easybreeze, 3 * 3.5kw and a single 2.5Kw. Has any had experience with this brand?

Im end terrace so condensors would be on this wall, would 4 external condensers be noisy?
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I have two easybreeze 3.5kw units. They were only installed a year ago and I rate them highly. My sister got the same installed so they were recommended to me by her. The easybreeze sounds like a gimmick but it works very well when you dont what the force of air to be strong.
 
Rilot said:
I just bought one of these new propane-filled EasyFit units for my garden workshop and the supplier is demanding I prove it will be fitted by an F-GAS engineer. I advised them this is an easyfit unit with no regulated gasses but they aren't having it.
I'm annoyed.
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Cancel, order from someone else :P
 
Bazzards said:
I have had a guy come in to provide a quote for 4 rooms. He reckons I would be better off with individual split units as these can be connected to a socket ring main. If I have a single external condenser for the 4 internal units, then I will need an armored cable connecting to the Consumer unit. I would also require a new consumer unit as there are no spare points. Then the issue with channelling the wall down from the loft through a bedroom to the CU which I dont fancy having to repair.

The units proposed are Midea easybreeze, 3 * 3.5kw and a single 2.5Kw. Has any had experience with this brand?

Im end terrace so condensors would be on this wall, would 4 external condensers be noisy?
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My Mitsubishi 8kW external unit is connected to a 32A socket ring main and can support up to 4 internal units. We have three internal units (1x 5kW and 2x 2.5kW) and I don't think I've ever seen it use more than 2kW of power even with all three on. It works great.
 
Bazzards said:
I have had a guy come in to provide a quote for 4 rooms. He reckons I would be better off with individual split units as these can be connected to a socket ring main. If I have a single external condenser for the 4 internal units, then I will need an armored cable connecting to the Consumer unit. I would also require a new consumer unit as there are no spare points. Then the issue with channelling the wall down from the loft through a bedroom to the CU which I dont fancy having to repair.

The units proposed are Midea easybreeze, 3 * 3.5kw and a single 2.5Kw. Has any had experience with this brand?

Im end terrace so condensors would be on this wall, would 4 external condensers be noisy?
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Planing permission is needed if you have more than 2 external units.

I used to be 1.

Edit: there are also noise tests to meet in the planning regs. The rated noise of the unit, proximity to your neighbours windows and what’s in between them (fences) determines what you can install.

Edit2: you really don’t want 4 external units on the side of your house.
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
Planing permission is needed if you have more than 2 external units.

I used to be 1.

Edit: there are also noise tests to meet in the planning regs. The rated noise of the unit, proximity to your neighbours windows and what’s in between them (fences) determines what you can install.

Edit2: you really don’t want 4 external units on the side of your house.
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IIRC the change to 2 external units was only for detatched houses.

As for @Bazzards, 4 external units is going to look ridiculous.
 
That may be the case, however it’s the side of the house down to the garden about 1.5 meters from adjoining property. If they are fitted inline which I believe they will. You won’t notice the 4 units from the front of the house. If they keep me cool. All good.

Just had quote back, £7,850 all in this includes a condensate pump for one of the rooms. Waiting on a second quote before I go ahead.
 
If there are any windows on the side of the adjoining property you may planning issues. 1.5m from the adjoining property can be problematic for planning and the noise tests.

Just make sure your installer ticks the planning box, if your neighbour(s) make a complaint, you’ll have issues otherwise.
 
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Sounds risky and a future headache.

Not noticeable from the front doesn't mean will not be seen, and if your neighbours dislike it and inform the council, they'll get you to remove it meaning you'll rely on the installer to do the work or reimburse you.
 
Just checked and and the gap between houses is 3 metres, so should be ok on the distance front. But thank you for the heads up on Planning, hadnt thought of this. Will get onto the planning department.
 
Rilot said:
I will be. They are clearly idiots who don't know what they are selling.
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I just got a DIY system from appliances direct without any drama
(Other than APC splitting the two boxes so I got 1 box a day late)

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It's them that are refusing to ship it and it's that exact unit I ordered.
 
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Bazzards said:
I have had a guy come in to provide a quote for 4 rooms. He reckons I would be better off with individual split units as these can be connected to a socket ring main. If I have a single external condenser for the 4 internal units, then I will need an armored cable connecting to the Consumer unit. I would also require a new consumer unit as there are no spare points. Then the issue with channelling the wall down from the loft through a bedroom to the CU which I dont fancy having to repair.

The units proposed are Midea easybreeze, 3 * 3.5kw and a single 2.5Kw. Has any had experience with this brand?

Im end terrace so condensors would be on this wall, would 4 external condensers be noisy?
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Sounds like a total and utter mess, i'd do the job correctly imho and get a multi split system, 4 external units will look absolutely ridiculous.

It sounds like you've been quoted the above because its easy for the installer, not what's best for the house.
 
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Well I had another guy come this morning and suggested that 4 individual units should not be run on the ring main, and that a single large unit is the way forward, with the armored cable etc. I will look to go this way I think as planning suggests a single unit will be permissable but not multiples. My planning dept is useless though as I have just been directed to a planning portal where I need to pay £72 for initial advice. I have asked both installers about liaising with planning. If this something they cannot do, then I will next week.

I want this done properly and dont want issues with either planning or my house going up in flames.

Thanks for all the advice guys.
 
Bazzards said:
Well I had another guy come this morning and suggested that 4 individual units should not be run on the ring main, and that a single large unit is the way forward, with the armored cable etc. I will look to go this way I think as planning suggests a single unit will be permissable but not multiples. My planning dept is useless though as I have just been directed to a planning portal where I need to pay £72 for initial advice. I have asked both installers about liaising with planning. If this something they cannot do, then I will next week.

I want this done properly and dont want issues with either planning or my house going up in flames.

Thanks for all the advice guys.
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I think planning regs have/will be updated to allow more than 1 unit to better enable the boiler replacement scheme - also some changes about distances/placement.
 
Mesai said:
I think planning regs have/will be updated to allow more than 1 unit to better enable the boiler replacement scheme - also some changes about distances/placement.
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It already has but it’s to only 2 units, not 4.

The 1m boundary rule was removed but the noise tests have not changed so placement near the boundary can still be an issue if you have neighbours immediately next to you as the OP does. That said the noise tests is based on proximity to windows in habitable rooms within line of sight and the OP has confirmed their are none so should be all good for 1 or 2 units.
 
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