***SPOILERS AHOY!!!*** Football 1st-5th Jan

I'm sorry but that's total rubbish. Liverpool finished on 86 points that season, and played some excellent football in doing so. In fact, in many other seasons that points total would have been enough to win them the title, it's just that an exceptional United side earned 90 points.

You realise nothing you said in any way contradicts what I said?

Teams being worse, doesn't somehow magically make points dissappear. Its not like everyone said, Chelsea suck balls this year, lets make it 2 points per win. 86 points doesn't mean ANYTHING at all, they didn't get 86 points any other year, and they couldn't the year before or after, that year they got 86 points because the vast majority of the league got worse and Liverpool held on an extra year before getting completely crap themselves.

Liverpool weren't fantastic, and had a truly epic number of exceptionally lucky games, aswell as the entire league being worse than the previous season meant LIverpool got more points than normal, they without question did not play massively better than year. I can still remember the most ridiculous Boro game that year, where they outplayed Pook for 89 mins of the game, 2-3 ridiculous defensive mistakes let Torres nip in and was it 3-2 from memory, though Boro deserved to win it 5-0 they played so well and were it not for defensive mistakes Pool created nothing themselves.

Season after they too got worse, way way worse, like almost everyone else in the league.

That Liverpool side in say the invincibles year(with the Utd/Chelsea from that year) wouldn't have gotten close to 2nd place.
 
How many injuries have you got at the moment? Always seem to start the season slowly but you don't seem to be improving at all :confused:

Only Heitinga! But Moyes is doing stupid **** again like not playing 2 up top. **** negative formation, not being attacking! Playing Saha who has been dire, Arteta is not in form and needs to be dropped but he is too scared to do anything! His set pieces have been ****, earlier we have a free kick about 2 yards from the corner of the 18 yard box and Arteta, Pienaar and Baines were all standing over it. 4 blues in the box and like 8 Stoke players and all that happened was Pienaar ran over the ball and Baines lofted it in. You could exactly what was going to happen from a mile away!

Not giving Beckford a chance or Bily! It's just dire, the whole game there has been no urgency to attack the Stoke back 2 with the ball.

It's a joke, we won't get anyone in during Jan 'cos we have no money and Moyes is too afraid to drop or ship anyone out to get some cash in.

We have made chance and played good football in parts just like we have every game this season but our finishing in the final 3rd has been woeful, we don't have anyone to finish and stick the ball in the back of the net.

I'm fuming, it's so infuriating watching the same negative **** day in day out now. Moyes needs his cage rattling and we need to shake up the squad! :mad:
 
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