Star Trek: Picard

james.miller said:
Picard's rally cry in Ep8 seems oddly out of place for somebody whos been beaten in to submission for the last 20 years. Which is odd really as that's what we've all wanted from Picard from the start. I cant decide if it's better late than never or a throw away moment we can just forget about next episode..of which there are quite a few!
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Was it that out of place though?

First episode, he verbally crushes the news interviewer. He jumps at the call to try and help Dahj. The grumble he has with Zhaban and Laris about how he hasn't been living since leaving Starfleet, he's just been waiting to die. He tells the C-in-C to ignore him at her peril (and she does indeed follow up, unfortunately for everyone involved it's with Oh who's part of the conspiracy). By the end of episode 3 he's back in space on the bridge of a ship...where he finds that space is a bit different when you don't have the might of a starship and a starship crew backing you up. The rest of the season has been him finding his way back to being a captain in a galaxy that got a lot more dangerous in the time since he was last out in it. And IMO we're now seeing him having regained that sense of wonder about space, that confidence to go charging into it and the trust in the people around him to back him up.

While I'm rambling on...

I watched TNG's "The Chase" last night - the Enterprise, Klingons, Cardassians and Romulans racing to solve a puzzle that will reveal the origin of humanoid life in the galaxy. The ending is pretty striking. The message that they all had a common progenitor appears to have fallen on deaf ears, when the commander of the Romulan mission hails:


The beginnings of Picard's willingness to help the Romulans, perhaps. Also note that it's the Romulan commander making the overture here - right from their very first appearance in TOS's "Balance of Terror"* it always seemed like there were Romulan starship commanders who were more than willing to stop fighting the Federation, but there was no political will within the Romulan government to actually make peace. Trek As Social Commentary, etc.

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I regret that we meet in this way. You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend.

- Romulan commander to Kirk after the Enterprise disables the Romulan ship
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Today's episode completely confused me. Lots going on for no apparent reason. I don't know what the plot is anymore. None of the characters behaved consistent with their personality so far. It's like a completely different team of people worked on it.
 
billysielu said:
Today's episode completely confused me. Lots going on for no apparent reason. I don't know what the plot is anymore. None of the characters behaved consistent with their personality so far. It's like a completely different team of people worked on it.
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Just wait till the next episode, two characters will be sat round a table going through the entire plot for the umpteenth time
 
We're 8 episodes in and i really think we could have got this far if they had cut out some of the babbling with 4 or 5 episodes with no loss to the story.
 
Gerard said:
We're 8 episodes in and i really think we could have got this far if they had cut out some of the babbling with 4 or 5 episodes with no loss to the story.
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I certainly think you could have lost an entire episode out of the opening five easily. Things have been helped by them going to slightly longer episodes, the infodumps don't feel quite as rushed now IMO.
 
After being in the states for a week I’ve finally caught up, though I wished I just stayed there.
I fell asleep watching eps7 last night and ended up finishing off and then watching eps8 this early morning. Eps8 was a great sea better but again that doesn’t say much.

The whole woke ‘hey let’s ram the F word down the viewers throats’ is quite sad and there’s just too much bs talk. The hologram scene had me in stitches whereas a Jeri Ryan moment had me ask ‘Tf was the point of all of that?!’

I had more observations I but I’m on a bus and it’s hard typing as it is.
 
Ha! This thread is turning into the walking dead thread - threats of not watching anymore episodes because 'insert writing, effects, realism, continuity, nerd' comment here. But they are back each week after watching - meh.

A couple of dodgy scenes (and accents!) but I'm glad Picard is on our screens and I'm enjoying it very much.

Rios' engineer hologram was Scottish - nice touch.

Borg space dump - wow!

7 of 9 connecting to Borg - cool!

Raffi - annoying AF, why don't they space her?
 
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So let me get this straight (I've finally watched it on Amazon now)...

Beacon from ancient race gives warning of impending danger.
Beacon wrecks the mind of anyone touching one or more likely they go mad.
Known that Creators of Beacon has amazing achievements.
Mysterious enemy from beyond known knowledge just waiting for threshold of the cosmic scene to reach a particular state before coming in to spell doom.
Mysterious enemy was creation of those who left the Beacon.
Cult has more sleeper agents than is plausible in a story.
Race against time to prevent calamity via Mysterious enemy who will arrive when Syntheics reach a predefined evolutionary point.
The created will always destroy the creator.
Doesn't sound anything like Mass Effect 1 through 3 one bit now does it? :p

Back to actual Trek though. I wonder if they are suggesting that the Machine Planet that V'ger landed on initially might be the original evolved syntheic race that the warning is talking about. That would certainly give a threat potentially that is greater than V'ger, and potentially the Borg too if the storyline suggested in certain games that V'ger helped form the Borg initially, a sort of Technological counterpart to Species 8472; the Apex of Technology to Apex of Biology. Also, possible links to that Repair Station in Enterprise that seemed to be a crossbreed between Borg regenerative technologies and a sentient being. Could go in any direction, but lots of fun speculation at least possible here. :)
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Those stupid holos with crap Irish, Scottish and whatever accents annoyed the crap out of me.
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Before the Picard series Star Trek has had major recurring characters speaking whole series in North American, Scottish, Irish, English, Russian and made up accents. And Mexican twice. That I can think of.
And this being a fictional far future accents could have modified in any way.

As for Picard's French accent he had been living in France and why would aliens know what a French accent should sound like or that even know what France was? He was just trying to carry off a disguise in a sequence that was a meta for acting, and to me delightful.

And if you think Picard has fluff time in it you should try The Expanse.
 
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I gotta say I think this is the first episode I didn’t like. All over the place, very contrived at times. Every week we have some woman shout at the greatest hero the Federation has ever produced and belittle him and this week was no different.

It’s set in the Federation, it’s ok sci-fi the writing has its highs and lows acting is generally ok but it’s not trek. It lacks the episodic theming and character building. I guess the old syndicated trek format was never going to work for Stewart but it’s probably dead as a concept, TV has moved on.
 
Meddling-Monk said:
So let me get this straight (I've finally watched it on Amazon now)...

Beacon from ancient race gives warning of impending danger.
Beacon wrecks the mind of anyone touching one or more likely they go mad.
Known that Creators of Beacon has amazing achievements.
Mysterious enemy from beyond known knowledge just waiting for threshold of the cosmic scene to reach a particular state before coming in to spell doom.
Mysterious enemy was creation of those who left the Beacon.
Cult has more sleeper agents than is plausible in a story.
Race against time to prevent calamity via Mysterious enemy who will arrive when Syntheics reach a predefined evolutionary point.
The created will always destroy the creator.
Doesn't sound anything like Mass Effect 1 through 3 one bit now does it? :p
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Thats exactly what I thought whilst watching it.
 
I liked 8 because it's finally moving along
It took 8 episodes to find out who the jadvash or whatever they are, are.
The whole 7of9 bit confused me, how she got there, her willingness to reconnect. Very odd.

At least in ep9 we will see some Starfleet ships? A transwarp. Borg cube?

I don't see the need for a series 2 tbh.

I guess I'd watch 45 mins. Of Picard taking his dog for a walk, having breakfast.
Playing his flute. That would be a gorgeous touch.
 
This has become a lot more enjoyable now that we actually have an understanding of ‘the enemy’s’ motives. There was far too much vague moustache twiddling in earlier episodes.

Some things are just OK, like the captain and his holograms or the ‘girl either the tracker’.

Drunk woman who vapes and the completely OTT calous Romulan lady are pretty bad.

Also.... poor Borg!!! :(
 
I want a Star Trek: Kirk next, as he is old now, just like Pat is. Tho him dying in Generations may put a crimp in the idea lol. Im sure a writer can just ignore that detail or work around it like a magic tribble or q resurrecting him or some time travel thing. :D Cant be any worse can it. Sulu can be in too as hes still around. :)
 
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