Star Wars VIII : The Last Jedi [WARNING: SPOILERS]

Steampunk said:
Prequels were bad but they were at least Star Wars. TLJ is just plain insulting. It goes out of it's way to **** on the fans.
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Not convinced they were.
They were shiny CGI
Marketable gungans comedy, not to mention the racist undertones
Awful ships which shone brightly even when battered and shot to ****
A kid blowing up starships by mistake
Purple lightsaber for the black fella...
They were awful abominations of films, all of them, people seem to think the third was good, it wasn't it is awful also, just not as awful as 1 and 2

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MIDI -WHATS??????
Without which their would be no life....
30 years to explain the force and its miniature creatures, well done
Now force communication over vast distances doesn't seem so out there
 
Possibly.
Wasn't as shiny. Plus point.
Bombs dropping in space. So many minus points i think it falls off the ******* scale.
Didn't gungan it up. Plus point.
Seriously bombs in ******* space!!

I am going to stop.
I think virtually all star wars is hit now, on review, ANH is terrible in parts too, but ESB is a decent film.
 
Destination said:
Possibly.
Wasn't as shiny. Plus point.
Bombs dropping in space. So many minus points i think it falls off the ******* scale.
Didn't gungan it up. Plus point.
Seriously bombs in ******* space!!

I am going to stop.
I think virtually all star wars is hit now, on review, ANH is terrible in parts too, but ESB is a decent film.
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They did exactly the same thing in Empire, you know the film everyone holds up as the best star wars film.

There was Tie bombers dropping bombs in zero gravity when trying to flush out the Falcon from the asteroid field. It's funny how everyone forgets that.

If you don't believe me watch it yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phGlo_TNDp0

Wookiepedia describes them as 'bombers' in the traditional sense:
Guided concussion missiles/proton torpedoes were generally carried nearing the inside of the second hull, orbital mines were placed in a rack above the missile rack, while proton bombs and orbital mines were generally near the exterior of the hull, near the bomb-drop chute.
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE/sa_bomber/Legends

I'm not saying TLJ was a great film, it wasn't and had some serious issues but it simply doesn't deserve a lot of the so called 'fan' hate it gets. Also so much of the hate is directed at things that were actually in the original trilogy but people coincidentally seemed to forget.
 
Yes, it was bad then, and they repeated it after, in empire you didn't see an actual 'drop' either, for all we know they were flying over, firing directly down shafts and splits in the asteroids to penetrate its surface and drive people out. rather than dropping.
Now if some online resource says they were dropping them, then yes, awful, but as least they didn't build a complete scene of a film based around what looks to be the gravity release of a 'bomb' in zero gravity space.

This is ruining my mood. All star wars is ****. The universe the theory, the concept is great, but the more you look at the films the more they become poo on a very big bright shiny cgi lucasarts stick.
Parsecs.
 
Destination said:
Yes, it was bad then, and they repeated it after, in empire you didn't see an actual 'drop' either, for all we know they were flying over, firing directly down shafts and splits in the asteroids to penetrate its surface and drive people out. rather than dropping.
Now if some online resource says they were dropping them, then yes, awful, but as least they didn't build a complete scene of a film based around what looks to be the gravity release of a 'bomb' in zero gravity space.
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I agree with this point - In Empire I thought they were "firing" bombs due to their speed whereas in TLJ is was made painfully obvious that these were gravity bombs and the whole scene looked like it was taken from some kind of WW2 bomber flick Rian had seen and thought looked cool.
 
ianh said:
... the whole scene looked like it was taken from some kind of WW2 bomber flick Rian had seen and thought looked cool.
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I think this is something that has actually been confirmed and Johnson has said he loved WW2 movies with bombers. The whole film smacked of someone who just had these 'cool visuals' he wanted regardless of how they serviced the film and the pressure from Kennedy/Disney to 'diversify' at all cost.
 
Grandmaster Fap! said:
I think this is something that has actually been confirmed and Johnson has said he loved WW2 movies with bombers. The whole film smacked of someone who just had these 'cool visuals' he wanted regardless of how they serviced the film and the pressure from Kennedy/Disney to 'diversify' at all cost.
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This is the thing that annoyed me the most. It was supposed to be a three film arc, and JJ Abrams did a solid setup of the first film ie a good first act for the trilogy. Johnson comes in and throws it all way, and does so maliciously. He seemed to take great pleasure in being contemptuous of TFA, the previous Star Wars movies, and of the fans. He not only threw everything away, but where Abrams did a lot of setting up for the second movie to continue the story, Johnson painted everything into a corner, like he was making sure the next director was well and truly screwed as to where the story could go. I'm suprised Abrams agreed to come back and try to fix the next film, as Johnson has shafted him on all the setup that was done in TFA.

And I blame Kennedy for allowing it to happen on her watch. I suspect she has no love or understanding of the franchise, just being a business person with a diversity agenda, and she chose Johnson as he speaks the same language, and understands as little as she does.
 
Just going to pop my head in and leave this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/8zm8jw/regarding_the_lucasfilm_story_group/

Yesterday I wrote a comment looking for more information on the Story Group and the people involved. I went ahead and started researching and was absolutely dumbfounded to discover that collectively they have practically ZERO experience in writing or entertainment. It was suggested that I make a post with some of that info, so here it is.
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edit: and this https://www.reddit.com/r/saltiertha...o_is_the_story_group_and_what_are_their_main/
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
Just going to pop my head in and leave this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/8zm8jw/regarding_the_lucasfilm_story_group/

edit: and this https://www.reddit.com/r/saltiertha...o_is_the_story_group_and_what_are_their_main/
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I hope this blows up and Disney steps in to replace Kennedy and her broken leadership. I'm amazed they sacked James Gunn for stupid tweets he made years ago, that they knew about and he apologised for, despite him bringing in two of their biggest movies, but they let Kennedy preside over the destruction of Star Wars.
 
Steampunk said:
I hope this blows up and Disney steps in to replace Kennedy and her broken leadership. I'm amazed they sacked James Gunn for stupid tweets he made years ago, that they knew about and he apologised for, despite him bringing in two of their biggest movies, but they let Kennedy preside over the destruction of Star Wars.
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I think she'd have to step down herself as Disney wont have the balls to push her for fear of the sjw's going all 'ermergerd you fired her because shes a woman!!'.
 
iamtheoneneo said:
I love that we are now four films deep into 'new Star Wars' and the horribly paced Rogue One is still the best film.
Insane...
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I agree and I'm inclined to put Solo in second place, TFA made me tingle the first time I watched even as I recognised it as horribly flawed. Solo is ironically a much more coherent film not earth shattering but nicely done.
 
ianh said:
I agree with this point - In Empire I thought they were "firing" bombs due to their speed whereas in TLJ is was made painfully obvious that these were gravity bombs and the whole scene looked like it was taken from some kind of WW2 bomber flick Rian had seen and thought looked cool.
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yeah this - in empire they are obviously being fired and are called 'bombs' in name only. It doesn't matter what some loosely licensed book/webpage says, the movie is the only canon that matters.
 
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