many products can be purchased online from thoes regions much cheaper than purchased in the west even when paying import duty, there isn't anything wrong or illegal with that, whats wrong with it exactly?
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many products can be purchased online from thoes regions much cheaper than purchased in the west even when paying import duty, there isn't anything wrong or illegal with that, whats wrong with it exactly?
If it were as safe, cheaper and just as convenient to order my gorceries from China then i would.
It is not so i do not.
His high horse doesnt get much use obviously.
Nothing.
Because you're buying from a local company who has incurred local costs and sold their product at the expected and intended price.
If it can be made by someone it can be broken by someone.
It's the old addage whereby some people think they're doing well if they can sell an item at a massive price (i.e. £50 for a game). Where as selling 100 of the same game at £10 would be much better. I'd have to ask why there's so much difference in prices. If the publisher is happy to get a £5 for it in Bolivia or such like then they should be happy here (well £6 if you add VAT).
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Whats his GPU got do with the discussion i don't see what relevance it has to do with it :\
Il buy from which ever site/place sells said items cheaper to save cash to buy other stuff (even a 980Ti),if its a grey site that's fine by me as have various bodys that take care of virtual goods if there iffy same as we have trading standards for retail goods.
An to be honest imo Nvidiagamer is spot on,why pay over the odds for a game if you can get it for a fraction of the price? if these keys aren't legit then report the site's an get them removed.
Fine line with some of these threads as they come across as more of a witch hunt an wouldn't be to surprised to see this thread get locked as its pretty pointless really.
I'm going to sound selfish here but imo if there is a convenient way (not much hassle) to buy a cd key cheaper from a legit source (steam, origin etc) via a VPN to their foreign store then I will do it. Unfortunately I have a strong opinion - which is probably misinformed somewhat - about the UKs inflated pricing of many things, so I do it mainly out of principle.
In my mind the dev is still getting money as I'm buying it from a legit source but they're just not getting as much if I paid UK prices.
In my mind the dev is still getting money as I'm buying it from a legit source but they're just not getting as much if I paid UK prices.
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People try to justify these things in their own mind, but the truth is if everyone pays £1.99 the devs won't make any money and either release sub standard garbage, or utilise their talent elsewhere for a proper reward.
I would consider myself an enthusiast when time permits, and if I'm happy to drop two grand on a system then I'm happy to pay £25 or £35 for games like Tomb Raider, TW3 etc
I would consider myself an enthusiast when time permits, and if I'm happy to drop two grand on a system then I'm happy to pay £25 or £35 for games like Tomb Raider, TW3 etc
Yup, this is what it comes down to for me, I'd rather pay £30-40 occasionally for a great game than £5-10 every couple of weeks for an "ok" one I get bored of after a couple of hours, or can't play because its so buggy
Your not taking into account the greed of the corporations that just want profit, do you think their not making money from a game they sell in Thailand for half the price?
They charge more because people can and will pay.
that's illogical!
The analogy isn't perfect, but the underlying point is sound enough.
We in the UK pay more for just about everything, as we are a developed economy with relatively good wages.
Most of us are happy enough paying these prices - be it in the supermarket or a Sky subscription - and we /all/ live comfortably in this country, able to afford luxuries that many people in BRICS countries can only dream about. Heck, even people on "low" wages in this county have PS4s and Sky TV.
Even with the kock-down prices in BRICS regions, it's safe to say that >50% of Indians can't even afford that. If we as Westerners insist on buying Indian codes, all we can do is push up those prices, forcing more of them into piracy.
The net effect might be the same as if we'd pirated the game ourself.
I do wish people would stop using average wage as an indicator of wealth and the ability to purchase luxury items...
It means nothing.
People and family's in poverty have much more pressing needs than buying either a game console or a PC. For those that can afford those luxuries, they will get it from the same places we are talking about here. The keys on sale are valid keys. They may be region locked but I have yet to see anybody stripped of their game (Does anybody have experience of this)
It means nothing.
People and family's in poverty have much more pressing needs than buying either a game console or a PC. For those that can afford those luxuries, they will get it from the same places we are talking about here. The keys on sale are valid keys. They may be region locked but I have yet to see anybody stripped of their game (Does anybody have experience of this)
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While I am happy for this discussion to continue as it is, please note that the moderators and I have discussed the "grey market" sites and we are happy for them to continue to be mentioned in the forum and in the deals thread. I will however be adding a note to the forum rules that these sites do carry an inherent risk (however small) and if you buy from them, you do so at your own risk.
Discussion/arguments about whether they should be allowed on the forum are now moot.
Discussion/arguments about whether they should be allowed on the forum are now moot.
In your opinion. I am of the opinion that they have got money from people that would have never have bought the game for the full uk price.
Money for what is just a code. For digital distribution, surely any money is better than no money.
As i wrote in my other post. Better to sell a million codes at £5 a pop than 100,00 codes at £20.
How is it illogical?
If a developer has gone to the effort of making a decent game which runs well, looks good, is enjoyable, has a great storyline, and will give me 50+ hours of entertainment, I'm more than happy to pay £30-40 for it, because I know that if the developer makes enough money on that game they are more likely to do the same with their next one.
If that same developer makes a loss on the game because everyone bought a Russian copy for £5, then what exactly do you think they are going to do?
You're assuming there are 990,000 more people who would buy the game if it was £15 cheaper. Obviously it's impossible to have exact figures either way, but I find that highly unlikely. However I would hope that the big publishers have experienced and intelligent market analysts who are able to make an educated projection of exactly how many copies they can expect to sell at a particular price and so have set the pricing accordingly.
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BF4, Batman. Do you wish me to continue?
Anyway. DP has just said his piece so I am going to bow out of this thread.
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I am not discoutning it completely. In truth no one really knows. All i know, in my head is that i just simply wont by most games at the full UK price and will wait till they drop to a reasonable amount ( which is normally in a matter of months these days) - if i can see it cheap on a cd key site/different region i will buy it earlier.
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And with logic like this, the conversation is utterly pointless.
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