/Some/ money goes to the developer.
But it's basically akin to naming your own price, instead of paying what's being asked.
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/Some/ money goes to the developer.
But it's basically akin to naming your own price, instead of paying what's being asked.
what do you base this bit on? do you work for a games company this seems like a big issue for you.
Don't matter, people on here are making out buying keys from the grey market is as bad as piracy.
I don't see people complaining when they can get an iPad or an phone from an international seller for £50 to £150 cheaper than buy it within the UK at RRP.
If people want to make a saving, then let them carry on.
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If they bought that key originally?
I buy a car and sell it on do I give money to the manufacturer?
You're doing the UK taxpayer out of the sales tax in that case, so yes people do complain
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You're doing the UK taxpayer out of the sales tax in that case, so yes people do complain
Say what now
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lol this thread
You're doing the UK taxpayer out of the sales tax in that case, so yes people do complain
Tax avoidance is routinely celebrated on OcUK.
I think this is just another symptom of the culture we live in, where it really is everybody for themselves. Dog eat dog.
I think it's the effect that several decades of consumerism has had on us. I'm not even joking.
but corporate greed is ok?
£94.98 star wars battlefront that's for the game and season pass.
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Strudders is one of the only people talking sense in this thread. Foxeyes lost the plot, your analogies are rubbish. I hope you take the same stance as this thread with all other aspects of your life e.g. Pay full price for a new car in order that the poor dealer doesn't lose out! Haha!
Yep, it's totally fine. They're selling entertainment, not cancer treatments.
Not worth 95 quid? Don't buy it.
Also they are the ones who created the product. They can ask what they like.
If nobody bought them at £100, they'd have to lower the price at some point. You suspect that there are a few people who will pay that, which is why they ask it. But clearly the price will have to fall at some point or they'd only make a fraction of their potential sales.
Also I don't see many people calling nVidia "greedy" when they sell a Titan for £1000. And there are plenty here with 980ti GFX cards, who similarly didn't seem to mind the price.
In fact many have applauded nVidia for "being able to make so much money" and charge so much. In contrast, AMD has been called the choice "for poor people" many, many times.
It's funny how "corporate greed" is used as a justification when you /can/ game the system, but when you can't nobody seems bothered, or have outright contradictory opinions.
don't worry I don't, not at that price anyway, its greed pure and simple
It's a free market, consumers decide the price. If no-one was buying it at that price it wouldn't be sold at that price.
well that's the point of this tread that many here don't and many out there don't either anymore hence game company's and their employees moaning about it saying its wrong.
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But a titan/980ti is a tangible and resellable product, if you take it out of the box and the product you get is completely different to the one advertised, doesn't work properly etc you can get a refund.
If a game looks nothing like its advertised, doesn't work as advertised and is of generally poor quality, I have a 2 hour window to realise this or steams refund policy says I can go whistle.
Hence exactly the reason I refused to pay £95 for SWBF. Oh and surprise surprise, it was terrible. But it cant be refunded, resold or traded for anything else.
Also its massively hypocritical of you to say people should be paying RRP to the devs then hop on both the MM here and eBay to track down a promotional key that someones selling. Quite literally undermined your original point.
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What? origin have one of the more generous refund policies going.
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I always assumed key selling sites bought the keys in bulk at wholesale prices and sold them for slight profit? Guessing I'm wrong judging by the debates!
Throughout this thread and in the other I advocated using authorised resellers and not to pay the full Steam price. Typically the auth resellers are charging approx 2x the grey market price, whilst Steam might be charging 4x the grey market price (outside of sales). We all know Steam is useless unless they've got a sale on.
How many games have I bought from Steam outside of sales? About 2 out of 200. Those were titles I really wanted on release and weren't cheaper elsewhere. Even if I buy on release, GreenMan (etc) are normally cheaper than Steam. But still legit. The difference is, the devs are happy with what the auth resellers are charging. They are appropriate prices for our region.
Also we've discussed my MM purchases (codes from UK graphics cards) to death. I will not concede that purchasing a code from a UK graphics card promotion is the same as buying one from a foreign region. I've outlined the reasons before, and there are plenty who agree with me.
It's fine if you choose to consider them the same thing, but they really aren't.
e: Could I do more to support the devs? Yes, I could. I could choose to pay full Steam RRP. I could buy two copies of every game.
But crucially, I don't actively seek to pay less than the best price available legitimately in the UK. And that, I feel, is all that is required for a clean conscience.
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Thats true they do, but I waited to see if it would get patched and improved, and it hasn't.
That case isnt particularly true for me in any case, as I paid £30 for a key from a key site
Although had I purchased it at full RRP from origin? I'd be fuming.
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